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Following the spirit of spreading across the Fediverse (and because my main instance is down so many times, because diverse reasons) I'm intrigued about the joining instance process, because I honestly don't know what criteria to have in order to join another one if I ever want to do it.

That made me curious of how you decided to join?

I firstly join to lemmy.fmhy.ml thanks to Spez and a Reddit post from FMHY subreddit, then the tragedy occurred, then I joined to lemmy.world which is/was my main one because I pictured it like a good home, then lemmy.fmhy.net revived and I am with them too, but seems like they are in a bit of trouble with the server, finally now I am in lemm.ee, but only because I just wanted another backup, not because I searched for it especially (also it was mentioned in a comment about smaller instances and one user from here throw a joke to not join here because it sucks so that way the server would be more stable, so yeah, I joined).

To be clear I am not in search for yet another instance (that sounds like a good instance name to be fair), I just want to know how the deciding process is for you, is it just random? Is it because of personal tastes?

I couldn't care less about NSFW stuff, I don't search for it specifically, but my day won't be ruined if I see a tit.

I like gaming, tech, Linux, SBC gaming, emulation, macOS, Android stuff etc (yeah how original) should I look for an instance dedicated to that if I ever want to join yet another one? Because I see topics like this in almost any instance.

I read you lemmings!

EDIT: BTW the migration process has been easier for me thanks to LASIM, so I wouldn't be scared if I ever want/have to migrate again.

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[–] nac82@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Youre better off. Lemmygrad is like 90% Russian propagandists. Dudes think editing a commercial to whiten skin tone is the same as genociding children.

Reminds me of late stage 4chan and r/the_donald

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I fucking love comments like this from people who have no clue that hexbear is mostly ideologically alligned with lemmygrad and then get dunked on for it. Here's a quote for you from a super scary man named Mao that you should learn to take to heart so you don't get dunked on like this (emphasis mine):

I. NO INVESTIGATION, NO RIGHT TO SPEAK

Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn't that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?

It won't do!

It won't do!

You must investigate!

You must not talk nonsense!

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So? I call out hexbear for being shitty in its own way too.

Just because one site is clearly a Russian psy-op doesn't mean the people who fell for the psy-op are in the same group.

Its funny you think there is some nuance im missing, but as is typical for the group in here triggered by my callout, you can't actually state the problem.

You have to shit on some theoretical point that nobody made.

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

His point is that Hexbear and Lemmygrad have the same stance on Ukraine:

NATO caused it by arming the nazis during the civil war and making US aid contingent on including the far right in gov't (instead of contingent on purging the nazis from the gov't and army), and then by continuing to arm them while they violated Minsk II and did literal pogroms. Western Ukrainian nazis were shelling eastern Ukraine right until the day of the invasion.

Every weapon we send to Ukraine is a bad day for someone, mostly civilians. Anything except ending western participation in the war as quickly as possible is sacrificing more blood of the workers for the profits of the bourgeoisie.

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So let's just take all of this as a given.

How does this justify the genocide Russia is enacting on the people of Ukraine?

And again, I said this before in 2 separate comments but I'll say it here as well.

It's one thing to be an individual who has read and internalized Russian psyop content, it is entirely different to be a bad faith propoganda agent organized by the state.

The people I've engaged from hexbear are typically dipshit shitposters at worse, lemmygrad is clearly different.

If you spent any time checking out the messaging on 4chan and r/the_donald or any of the other Russian psyop sites, you pick up on some habits.

The most obvious example in the current conversation is lemmygrad hosting a sub called Ukraine war news that has 0 news on active events in Ukraine. Every post is meant to shape your thoughts using bad faith information presentation.

You wrote out your legitimate thoughts and included all details you find viable to discuss. These users know they are participating in bad faith and do so intentionally.

Its why some people get a respectfully written response from me while others are called coping dipshits.

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does this justify the genocide Russia is enacting on the people of Ukraine?

The US is not preventing a genocide, it is facilitating one. The whole succession thing was triggered by the Ukrainian state banning the Russian language and Azov & co doing wide-spread organized violence against Russian minorities, backed by the state, in Eastern Ukraine.

all that other shit you wrote

get over yourself.

[–] nac82@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Lol is that why russia is shooting down their own people now?

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

The most obvious example in the current conversation is lemmygrad hosting a sub called Ukraine war news that has 0 news on active events in Ukraine.

The community became more general about NATO activities in general because we changed the display name to β€œDeath to NATO” which you would know if you visited !ukraine_war_news@lemmygrad.ml.

With all due respect, some of your comments are giving off the vibe that you would have accused anyone who wanted to stop the Vietnam War as being Russian propagandists.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

the genocide Russia is enacting on the people of Ukraine

Whatever you might think of the war, Russia is not committing genocide unless you hold invasion of an inhabited territory as being synonymous with genocide due to civilian casualties. Even if you think the invasion was completely in the wrong and Russia has an inconceivable amount of blood on its hands for everyone who has died, that still would not make it a genocide. The only people who push that kind of story are absolute rubes and people trying to connect it to the myth of the holodomor

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sure thing, you definitely made that comment knowing what hexbear was. If you thought hexbear was really that shitty, you wouldn't have said it's better to be on there than on lemmygrad??? They literally post more news about the conflict than lemmygrad does, absolutely baffling behavior to say that lemmygrad is the psyop and not hexbear (it's delusional to say it's a psyop either way)

[–] nac82@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You could just read the older comments where I discussed hexbear?

Cope dumbass.

It takes all of 10 minutes to open up lemmygrad, see disinformation campaigns such as titling a sub Ukraine war news then trying to fill it with news on NATO being the cause of the war.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did, you posted in their games comm, made that dumbass response in this thread, started getting shit on, then you started shitting on hexbear, pretty clear timeline of events for me

capitalist coping

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What? Lol you have a whole headcannon to lean on as a coping mechanism

I guess if you're just going to make shit up there is no point in further engagement

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you told me to look at older comments, and I did? accuses me of cope, sends one of the worst coping comments I have ever seen. A headcanon isnt me spending about 30 seconds looking through your comment history

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure bud. Why don't you comment on the chain you are referencing then? Or source it?

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't link directly to some because you and gaveup got comments removed which breaks the whole shit, but you respond to her comment with this shit:

https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1426661 (why tell someone they're better off at a place that you now supposedly always knew was as bad as lemmygrad is beyond me)

I think she responded to you with this comment:

in which case you responded with this:

she responds with this:

which is where you respond with this, at which point you still haven't brought up hexbear's supposed shittiness

then, hours later, you respond with this: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1431336

quite easy to see why I think this actually

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is nothing like what you were crying about lol.

I did, you posted in their games comm, made that dumbass response in this thread, started getting shit on, then you started shitting on hexbear, pretty clear timeline of events for me

Not a single thing you sourced is a games com, and yes I did describe hexbear in earlier comments that I told you to check.

Good job finding the thing I told you to find but shit job finding the thing you claimed existed.

Cope harder dipshit.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1415580 this you?k note carefully the @hexbear.net at the top of the comm

can you source a comment shitting on hexbear before they started dunking on you? the first comment I see you shitting on them is the one I already linked https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1431336

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you even on about? You literally are sourcing the referenced comment on my hexbear thoughts, although there were approximately 3 more.

My first criticism of hexbear was written when only 1 other response was here, and the gaming link you shared has me being upvoted.

I even defend hexbear by stating similar things as that criticism in one of the first comments in this thread. My views are consistent, there are dipshits in it as well but it's not a Russian psyop. I even have a hexbear linked account.

My entire point here is lemmygrad is garbage because it is a state organized psyop, but hexbear isn't so its valid.

I directly stated in the 3rd comment in this chain this same shit.

You're stupid af and desperate to find something to grasp and cope with.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely insane, please elaborate why you think lemmygrad (which had fucking 300 active users over a period of 6 (six) months before the reddit logo fiasco, and was founded in 2019, 3(three) years before all the propganda wars truly started in earnest) is a psyop and not hexbear which is infinitely more active and posts more about Ukraine and the war than we do (and I want the minimum amount of sourcing like I put into my comment. Like, have you ever looked at their news megathread???

Regardless, maybe you don’t understand my claim. I think you developed these opinions of hexbear after they started shitting on you, which my reasoning is that you shit on lemmygrad for something that should be equally if not more applied to hexbear if you did more than 5 minutes of looking around. My point of linking that comment is that you never displayed any disdain for hexbear on a public comment before their users started shitting on you

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the funniest shit I've seen all day, thank you lmao

[–] nac82@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nac82@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

If I'm glue does that mean we're stuck like this now?

Shit