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Trump winning supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly. No one wants what is happening in Gaza. But, I have to say the potential genocide (in the sense of complete erasure of culture as well as open murders with little to no consequences sense) here is even higher.

I have the unfortunate circumstance of being a trans woman in GA. I already have had to completely shut off most contact with people, both work and personal.

I’ve already had rocks thrown at me in an attempt to kill me (this was years ago, even). I already feel like I have to carry a gun. If things go the way they seem, I will even have to order in groceries because it will further empower the people that hate my existence.

The foreign policy is shit, no question. However, I don’t like the possibility of being raped and murdered by some asshole that thinks he understands Co² emissions after watching some video.

I have a lot to say here, especially as a very blue collar machinist. I will refrain, though.

In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which would have in my opinion had a much higher chance of being resolved with Democratic policies), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.

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[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah not to downplay the horror in Gaza but you might want to look into what's happening in Sudan, for example

But I agree comparing discrimination in the US to any of this is pretty crazy

[–] ElCanut@jlai.lu 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm fully aware of what's happening in Sudan, but since multiple humanitarian organisations have explained that what's happening in Gaza is the worst they have ever seen, I think it's safe to say that this is worse than any situation

Sources:

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Regarding 'destruction' I'm sure Sudan can't compete because these people had very little to begin with, but when you compare other numbers...

  • 200k killed
  • 10m refugees

And this comes on top on the previous genocide that just ended a few years ago and killed 300k...

I'm sure you can find plenty of people saying conflict X is 'tha worst evah' but that's just part of their job

[–] ElCanut@jlai.lu 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just cited the biggest humanitarians organisations saying that Gaza is the worst situation they've had to work on. Could you provide the same citations for another conflict? They're not just "plenty of people", they're the most competent person on the subject

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, you've selectively cited from press statements.

For instance, your first source is from March 2024 and only states "worst on record" in its title, and it only comments on the famine situation on that specific moment. The only part from the article that supports the use of the title is this:

In the IPC’s five-tier classification of food crises, Gaza now has the largest percentage of a population to receive its most severe rating (IPC phase 5 - catastrophe) since the body began reporting in 2004. It has also never been recorded that an entire population (or 100%) be in IPC Phase 3 or worse.

Now, of course that's grim and we all know everyone was raising the alarm around that period. But we also know that, following that, aid increased and a large scale famine has been averted.

Luckily for us, Oxfam has recently released a larger, more comprehensive paper on famine and food insecurity in 2023 and early 2024. With this newer report, I could easily make the case that Gaza only ranks #10 on their ranking on p.16 ... I hope this helps

[–] ElCanut@jlai.lu 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I appreciate that you took the time to provide a document from Oxfam, but saying that my argument is invalid because the situation in one of the fourth articles I provided has slightly improved since the article parution, is to my opinion not very honest

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Why would you use a source that improved so much since, to support your argument that Gaza is presently the worst situation?

You're right that I only commented on your first source, but then why would you use it and put it on the top if it doesn't make your case? Your use of the word 'slightly' is disingenious. Unless more food came in hundreds of thousands of people were going to starve. To say that not starving is a 'slight improvement' is an understatement you're deliberately making to obscure this. This is easily countered by the report I cited as well: they improved to the same level that 5 times more people are on in Sudan. So which of those two is worse by this metric, today?

Your second source is a single doctor who says it's like nothing he's seen before. While I appreciate him weighing in, I don't think that provides conclusive proof that a certain conflict he's working in is 'currently the worst in the world'.

Your third source is paywalled, but from what I can read it's about the first two months of Israel's retaliation on Gaza, citing the number of 18.000 deaths over this period as the reason why they considered it 'nothing we've seen before'. So first of all they're talking about a period in the past where the death toll was around 6 times as high as it is today, which also means that your above suggestion that only the situation described in the first of your four articles has 'slightly improved is, to my opinion, not very honest. Secondly, citing the death count as the reason for this doesn't say everything. Is a single Sudanese village being massacred to the last child 'worse'? Is more Sudanese being massacred over a longer period less so?

Your fourth source is not one of 'the biggest humanitarian organisations' but rather a single career politician. And it's his job not to understate any crisis he's commenting on. Here he is calling the one in Sudan "the largest displacement crisis in the world".

For clarity: I'm not trying to say that I don't consider the situation for the people in Gaza SuperBad, because it is. But there are conflicts where far more people are suffering and they're forgotten and falsely considered 'less worse' not because they are, but just because they don't even get 1/1000th of the media attention.