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Also 89,923 Americans voted for her. This is all according to 270towin.com

So that means a small fraction of Americans are somewhat cool

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[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the most realistic read on the PSL campaign is that it was a significant failure. PSL got about 100k votes nationwide, compared to about 626k for RFK Jr. When you're far outpaced by a guy who dropped out months ago, you have to call that what it is. And this was an election where maybe 20 million fewer people voted than four years ago -- you can't pull in any meaningful chunk of that?

[–] BRINGit34@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone anticipated the psl doing well. America is vehemently anti-anything left of Reagan.

Doesn't mean I can't celebrate the fact America has at least some good people and comrades.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I voted PSL, and I'm glad there are at least the embers of an open socialist movement, but I don't think we should fool ourselves about how bad this showing was. We're right to point out how Democrats should be having a reckoning and a total reassessment of strategy -- that criticism should be applied to PSL, too.

The party put together a nationwide campaign and didn't even get as much support as the Greens (also north of 600k). Why? What approach should be changed moving forward to improve? Because an honest look shows the approach we had this time around was a complete flop.

I think we should be constructive talking about this, but 100k votes in the context of being far outperformed by other minor parties, and the context of almost 20 million fewer people voting altogether... this wasn't in any way a success.

[–] BRINGit34@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just don't think the general American populace has material conditions bad enough to forgo years of propaganda and anti-communist rhetoric.

America will sooner become openly fascist then they would support even a demsoc.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, it might just be that people are too comfortable to entertain radical change. Millions sitting it out altogether instead of looking at a minor party would certainly fit with that. Looking into those Biden-to-staying-home people could be promising for the left.