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Have you made any poignant commentary on the recent election in the U.S.? Do you have a good response to liberals who are upset with the results or process of the election? Have you written or seen something as a comment reply/post that you think has standalone value? Did you see a new take or analysis you hadn’t previously considered?

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[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

My only thoughts are:

In America currently life is bad for most people. The corporations are rat fucking society, poring pollutants into the water supply and laying off staff to save costs. Prices are rising and opportunities are falling. For many men they feel like DEI and wokeness are attacking their prior advantage to get those dwindling opportunities and the bad news is they’re right. Access to opportunity is a zero sum game. Extending opportunity to marginalised groups does indeed reduce your own current unfair access to opportunities. The good news is that opportunity itself is not zero sum. Progressive policy can make new opportunities and expand the pool.

Your political choices are as follows: Liberalism just wishes to stabilise the current misery. As Joe Biden said nothing will fundamentally change. No new opportunities or prosperity will be made for you under liberalism. Just continued extraction from the capitalist vultures.

Facism wants you to fight your fellow citizens for the scraps of a burning economy. No new opportunity for you here either, just the chance to tread on the backs of your fellow man to get the scraps from the cooperate table. And the pool of opportunity will continue to shrink as more wealth is extracted. Sure you may get the scraps today, but when those scraps run out? Perhaps it’s your turn to be trod on.

Only socialism actually wants to make life better for everyone. It wants to give everyone access to a better future. It wants to build and work towards wealth for all people not just the corporate class of vampires. End the capitalist rent seeking that sucks the life out of society. Build things for public good. Bring back jobs even if they’re not as competitive as foreign Labour. Capital cannot do that, that would be sub optimal behaviour for maximum profit. Socialism doesn’t care, it can do that if it benefits the people.

[–] Eldungeon2@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yeah, I mean, everyone here knows all this and I do agree. However, somewhere along the line our universal project has become alienating to men and a universal project shouldn't be alienating to half of the human race. It's a real problem that deserves to be thought about. What is it about left and liberal culture that is so unappealing? I think we need to articulate a left wing, emancipatory vision for masculinity and it's role in radical culture. I mean it's that or just say we don't care about them, that has no place in the left??

[–] theother2020@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t have a direct answer and I am not this demographic. But today I was thinking about how amazing I felt for about one week in 2020 before Bernie was ratfucked. Hope and solidarity is a hell of a drug. Imagine how it feels to be part of an actual revolutionary movement. So we need to do the work and organize it.

Disclaimer, I know Bernie is a Western chauvinist but i didn’t fully grasp that then and it’s not about him anyway.

[–] Eldungeon2@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

For sure. Idk either.

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