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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So, you're saying that because the Shah was terrible in 1979 it's okay for the current people to be terrible now?

Right now Vietnam is a very popular tourist destination for Americans. I know people who have been there several times and want to go back.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Literally two comments ago you were saying this:

Most of the time when you destroy the system you get a much worse system.

Was the Shah good or bad? Is it important that what came before the Shah was a popular democratic system that the US destroyed? Is that destruction justified if it becomes a great vacationing spot for Americans?

You're all over the place bud.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So we agree. The revolution didn't actually improve things for most people.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No lol, we do not agree.

There are numerous examples of revolutionary change bringing better, more equitable systems of governance.

The only pattern I see is that the ones where the US is involved end up turning to shit.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lol!

And of course there's no chance that the US power structure would be involved if the US had a systemic break down.

Blackwater/Academi and the CIA probably already have detailed plans in place. They'll do what ex-KGB agent Putin did in Russia; let the people throw out the old leadership, then swoop in and buy up the resources for pennies on the dollar.

Thanks for helping me prove my point.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

Lmao, the CIA fomenting violent revolution in their own country in order to install a pro-western dictator/monarch would be very on-brand, I will grant you that

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's entirely besides the point.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -3 points 1 week ago

How is it 'beside the point' when it's exactly my point?

"Yeah, well, not enough of you people chose to die horrible, painful deaths at the hands of the brutal blood soaked dictator our country put into power. Therefore, it's your fault too."