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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Besides fox News and the like, who said that?

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Saving everyone a click

THE FACTS: Trump has said he doesn’t know about Project 2025, a controversial blueprint for another Republican presidential administration.

The plan was written up by many of his former aides and allies, but Trump has never said he’ll implement the roughly 900-page guide if he’s elected again. He has said it’s not related to his campaign.

That's everything they said. Those are quite literally the facts which they can report on: what Trump says.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sure, but doing a fact check at all is very strongly suggesting that the person making the claim is lying in a way that would be materially significant.

It just seems wrong to report that well technically, the candidate himself didn't say those exact words (while ignoring that he communicates like a mafia don), and fit it in amongst other fact-checks where the candidate is literally libelling an entire community with things that are absolutely bare-faced lies with very very racist underpinnings?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You seem confused. Their reporting here was that trump claimed not to be associated with the document, but in reality is. Maybe you don't like their wording?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope. Not what you're saying it is. They call out its origin even.

The plan was written up by many of his former aides and allies,

They also briefly mention what he claims. That is in no way corroborating it. They are simply trying to avoid seeming biased. The other time "2025" appears in that page, it's a quote from Harris about how dangerous it is.

This is normal and decent journalism.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well that's the article my boss used to "prove" to me that trump wasn't associated with it. It'd be nice if honest reporting wasn't immediately cast out as being leftist.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

He read the sentence he wanted, essentially summarizing Trump's claim, and ignored everything else. What is AP supposed to do about that kind of idiocy? You could do that with practically any source of information

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

facts have a left-leaning bias

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

What you all are really saying is that you want media to be more left leaning. The example people keep citing is AP, but they literally called out that he was associated with the creators of the document. Should they have used the word "lie", well, yes I think so personally, but there is a danger in further appearing biased. I can settle for refuting his claim the way they did despite my preference. This is not some obvious right wing leaning like people ITT seem to think.