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[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 125 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Meanwhile the newspapers: "FACT CHECK: It is incorrect to associate project 2025 with the Trump campaign" 🙄

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Besides fox News and the like, who said that?

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Saving everyone a click

THE FACTS: Trump has said he doesn’t know about Project 2025, a controversial blueprint for another Republican presidential administration.

The plan was written up by many of his former aides and allies, but Trump has never said he’ll implement the roughly 900-page guide if he’s elected again. He has said it’s not related to his campaign.

That's everything they said. Those are quite literally the facts which they can report on: what Trump says.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sure, but doing a fact check at all is very strongly suggesting that the person making the claim is lying in a way that would be materially significant.

It just seems wrong to report that well technically, the candidate himself didn't say those exact words (while ignoring that he communicates like a mafia don), and fit it in amongst other fact-checks where the candidate is literally libelling an entire community with things that are absolutely bare-faced lies with very very racist underpinnings?

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope. Not what you're saying it is. They call out its origin even.

The plan was written up by many of his former aides and allies,

They also briefly mention what he claims. That is in no way corroborating it. They are simply trying to avoid seeming biased. The other time "2025" appears in that page, it's a quote from Harris about how dangerous it is.

This is normal and decent journalism.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well that's the article my boss used to "prove" to me that trump wasn't associated with it. It'd be nice if honest reporting wasn't immediately cast out as being leftist.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

He read the sentence he wanted, essentially summarizing Trump's claim, and ignored everything else. What is AP supposed to do about that kind of idiocy? You could do that with practically any source of information

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

facts have a left-leaning bias

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[–] makuus@pawb.social 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I find this “retribution” thing very quaint…

“Retribution” for being held to the same standards as the rest of us. “Retribution” for being punished for violating the rules we’re all under. “Retribution” for being called to account for acting like awful people.

There is nothing that has been done to them that does not stem from their own, poor behavior—a completely self-fixable concern.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

It's projection. They do witch hunts against others, so naturally they assume any investigation of them is a witch hunt.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Our only hope is if Project 2025 ends up not being implemented in full because of its one fatal flaw: Donald Trump didn't think of it first. He might ignore parts of it out of spite, just to make sure the Heritage Foundation understands that it is not President.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I also suspect he may be dumb enough to do something like dissolve the IRS. Which would more or less destroy all forms of federal governmental power both soft and hard. Its something rhe sovcits have wanted for decades and I would not be surprised in the least if he got convinced by one.

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No more IRS? Looks like I'm not going to allow any federal tax to be withheld from my paycheck.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Its actually a bit dumber than just that. The sovcits want the sheriff's to collect taxes, im pretty sure my county sheriff would sooner kill themselves rather than even think about such a suicidal idea.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump is really bad at following through.

Other than the millions of deaths and the bad economy, which are weirdly short-term things, what did he actually accomplish first term aside from fucking up the judiciary? And even that was really more of a McConnel accomplishment from the Obama era.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Didn't he implement something like 2/3rds of the Heritage Foundation's policy proposals in his first term?

[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

MAGAS are incapable of associating anything bad with their dear leader. Hold them accountable.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You can't hold someone accountable if they don't think they did anything wrong. They firmly believe they're in the right, and will never believe Trump can or will do anything wrong. Anything bad that comes out of his administration, they'll just say it was Biden's fault. Kinda like how some Republicans supporters thought Obama was president during 9/11.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

Right. The cons and the Republican Party are pathological liars. The "liberal media" would do well to remember that and be sure to point it out as often as possible instead of playing their bullshit bothsiderist game.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SaintWacko@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 month ago

The problem is this leopard is going to eat all of our faces...

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They won't be able to implement half of it just due to the bureaucracy of the system fighting against any kind of big change. The part they do manage to ram through will be damaging enough, though.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

Do you know what Project 2025 is? Part of the plan involves removing the bureaucracy and replacing them with Trump loyalists and sycophants

That's if they replace them at all, as in many cases they will be eliminating regulatory agencies entirely.

I hope things like NPR can survive when their funds are finally cut entirely, as at this point the larger stations have enough donors to stay afloat. I hope.

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[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

They have control of all three branches of government. No checks. No balances.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

All 3 branches, Trump will have all yes men in his administration, and this time he benefits from his 4 prior years of stacking the courts.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't part of it about firing anyone that gets in their way? Schedule F provisions?

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The people saying there are protections to prevent this don't understand just how bad this is. They co trol everything. The United States just became a 1 party country because assholes stayed home to protest shit that is only going to get exponentially worse under trump. They forgot the lessons of his first term.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

shit bouta be wild

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