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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 53 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Unpopular opinion: Kamala was a solid candidate.

Biden was headed to a humiliating defeat. Another couple debates, and maybe he loses NY and CA and we have a Dukakis- or Mondale-level annhilation. Kamala stepped in and ran a solid campaign on very short notice. Trump didn't even have time to come up with a good nickname for her! She kicked his ass in their only debate, and he was literally too scared to do it again.

In the end, she lost by a couple hundred thousand votes in 3 states. She was wrong about Gaza and the economy, but PA, MI, and WI are credibly winnable in future elections. Kamala was not a garbage candidate.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think you are partially right. For starters.. this was not short notice by any standard. She ran a "solid" campaign.

I'd argue the campaign was flawed because the whole premise was flawed.. moving to the right does not help the democratic party. And the risk the Dems now face is that never trumpers join the democratic party and complete the transition of the US electoral system to a choice between maga (Christo fascism) and republican.

If the democratic party had an inkling that the victory of Trump would be as big as is now being said.. running Kamala was a doomed endeavor.. she was tainted by the Biden years.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What was solid about her? She lost to Trump of all people.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I hope you realize this but Harris ended up in a humiliating defeat.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unpopular opinion: Kamala was a solid candidate.

If that is an unpopular opinion then the statement is definitionally false.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This statement implies popularity = good, universally.

In the 1800s, slavery was popular. Hence, should a candidate have run on preserving slavery?

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No it doesn't. A candidate needs a lot of qualities to be "good". One of those qualities is the ability to be popular on election day. An unpopular candidate isn't a good candidate. A popular candidate might be.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

But it's not the voters fault! America had no choice but to vote for the rapist misogynist xenophobic fraudster traitor con man failed businessman because the woman had a nasally voice!

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, yes. Kamala was the way better choice of the two. Biden kinda fell off for me the moment he did the railroad strike stuff.

But I'm not living in the US, so my point is kinda moot.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Biden got those striking workers everything they wanted. He just didn't scream about it like Trump would have, which was a huge mistake.

The result was a compromise, in parts due to a blockage of the republicans. It was good, but it would have been so much better if they could have continued to hold the distribution of wares hostage. It could have been really awesome for workers as a reason to do the same.

I get that Biden did that to stump broad civil unrest in the whole US, btw. That would have put a lot of people on the streets demanding change. While destroying untold sums.