However, I oftentimes find myself doom scrolling through reddit, just because of some nonsense BS propaganda, ads, etc .., snuck inbetween of the community posts I'm actually interested in.

How can we convince the people over there to move away?

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[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Reddit took the time to get these communities going...

Sure! But, in this case Lemmy is literally a federated copypasta of Reddit, like Madtodon is of X.

Therefore, I think Lemmy is already a few steps ahead, due to the existing familiarity how communities/subs are supposed to be used.

So it's not we're starting from scratch... It's just getting rid of the annoyances of Reddit.

Take Mastodon/BlueSky as an example. People are already familiar withbthe concept of how to use it.

[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Sure! But, in this case Lemmy is literally a federated copypasta of Reddit, like Madtodon is of X.

This is being overly simplistic IMO. Lemmy is not a direct copy paste of reddit, just the idea is the same. Lemmy is missing many of the tools reddit has come to depend on for things like moderation and community engagement. The idea is the same but the framework is different and that comes with its own challenges.

Lemmy is a good enough platform for now and for future growth. It wasn't a drop in replacement for reddit when the exodus happened and it isn't a drop in replacement now, but it's closer. There are still lots of little things- quality of life improvements, moderation improvements, discovery improvements, etc that need to be tuned or fixed before Lemmy is ready to shoulder millions of active users, but that doesn't mean it isn't worthy of the effort today.

The beautiful part of the fediverse is we're all free to form our own ideas about how it's best grown and supported. If there's something you are passionate about there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from spinning up a community or instance about it and creating the niche communities everyone seems to miss. It all takes time, and individual and group efforts.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 1 points 16 hours ago

This is being overly simplistic IMO. Lemmy is not a direct copy paste of reddit, just the idea is the same.

But he's not wrong on a practical level, the content is almost the same on reddit and here, even the memes are being reposted from there to here and then reposted over and over.
To me, seeing the same content multiple times on the All feed makes it seem emptier, like I can just check it once a day and I won't be missing anything. I blame the accounts that post content on multiple instances/communities instead of posting once and letting it federate and the reposters who just recycle content over and over... maybe those who keep blindly upvoting too.

A normal user doesn't have any incentive to leave reddit if they are going to find the same things.

If there’s something you are passionate about there’s nothing stopping you or anyone else from spinning up a community or instance about it and creating the niche communities everyone seems to miss.

Yeeeeah no, as I said on another comment, creating a new instance requires some kind of investment, might be monetary, learn a new skillset or dedicating time to keeping it up, it's not something anyone can do/afford and as time goes on, it might escalate if you plan to preserve everything.
A new community... maybe, but then you're gonna have to go instance jumping until you find one that fits you and it might be quick or you might never find one.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 2 points 20 hours ago

Yes but we're also more mastodon less bluesky. If a bluesky-esque clone of Reddit comes along with better UX and paving over the issues of federation then it will win, the way Bluesky has beaten out Mastodon as the Twit alternate

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

But, that's not relevant to communities. You can kill a community by technical means, but technical means cannot create one; it's necessary but not sufficient, and not even the hard part.

Most people are still on fucking FACEBOOK. They are willing to put up with almost unlimited bullshittery for the sake of their sense of community. Building a better mousetrap won't work, and building a vaguely equivalent mousetrap won't even move the needle.