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[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Geordi made it clear more than once that not only would he rather just be able to see, but that his VISOR caused him constant pain

it was also suggested that his visor was "superior to human eyes". star trek is habitually inconsistent about its world and sometimes it is better not to think about it too much.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think that's contradictory at all though.

Geordi wanted to be able to see [naturally], but his visor is superior to human eyes in that it can see things that humans can't naturally see.

To put it a different way: a person with advanced bionic legs that never tire, could run far faster than any natural human, and bend in ways that human legs can't, would have superior legs. But there wouldn't be anything wrong with their stance if they said "yeah but I just want normal human legs".

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Geordie's new eyes were still bionic though weren't they? It's been a while, but I'm sure I remember him using them to search for someone in the movie.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Yes, they're still bionic

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t think that’s contradictory at all though.

Geordi wanted to be able to see [naturally], but his visor is superior to human eyes in that it can see things that humans can’t naturally see.

we are nitpicking here, but if i amputate your hand and stitch can opener at its end, you can now do something normal human hand cannot, but i don't think anyone would call that superior, or prefer it to their own hand.

if geordi decided that after considering all factors, he would rather have normal eyes, then that is definition of "not superior" to me.

and just a reminder that this is the extraordinary experience we are talking about. i am definitely choosing my eyes 😆

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean a can opener is very different, no? Or at least it is when I try to put myself in those shoes.

A can opener can open cans but nothing more. Sure you gain one piece of functionality, but you lose others.

Geordi's visor was a bit different in that he could see the visible light spectrum, but also a bunch of other stuff.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

bit different in that he could see the visible light spectrum

he could not: https://i.imgur.com/dlVpyIo.mp4

would you want to see like that? i mean if you were born blind and this was your only option, it is definitely better than nothing, but other than that, it is hard no from me.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

That's a visual representation, in the visible light spectrum, of what he sees. He would see it differently than what appears on the viewscreen.

There's also nothing there that shows or says he can't see the visible light spectrum.