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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I haven't seen a single Marxist in favor of Israel, though, you're just inventing people at this point. Unless you're trying to describe entirely different groups under the same general umbrella, but that confuses the convesation.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm using the term "tankie" to describe fake leftists, Israel has a lot of fake leftists and so called "Labor-Zionists"

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The people supporting China, Cuba, Vietnam, Venezuela, etc. and "critically supporting" Russia in its anti-Western stance are generally Marxists, and none of these people support Israel, and none fully support Russia. Israel has some few people that support the faux-Socialist "Kibbutz" system, but these people are anti-China, anti-Cuba, anti-Vietnam, anti-Venezuela, etc.

That's why I am saying it's confusing the conversation, your "tankie" doesn't hold all of the views you mentioned, you're describing separate groups under one label, a label almost always used for Marxists, and as such it leads to obfuscation of your actual message, hence confusion from other users.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The label itself is meaningless

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, I agree that the term is meaningless, but surely you can see why your usage of it to describe Zionists caused confusion, right?