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Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.

This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community.

Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.

Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.

Sending messages will be restricted to verified and active hexbear accounts older than 1 month with their matrix id in their hexbear user profile.

All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).

Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.

To gain matrix verification, all you need to do is navigate to my hexbear userprofile and click the send a secure private message including your hexbear username.

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"Imperialism leaves behind germs of rot which we must clinically detect and uproot from our land but from our minds as well." - Frantz Fanon

Hello users of Hexbear, the intent of this announcement is two-fold the first is that we would like to do another community moderator drive, if you have a community idea or want to help an existing one then please send an application either through hexbear or matrix direct message.

The call for new mods is crucial to our efforts to reduce racism and misogyny on the site, we need users to report and enough mods to be able to quickly act on the reports throughout the day and night. Also, CW or content warnings are essential to the safe browsing of Hexbear.

In addition, comments or posts removed for racist or misogyny will also be accompanied by escalating temporary bans. Upvotes will not be the single reason for a ban, however they may be used in conjunction with other posts/comments/upvotes. Consider this post the warning, however, mods are encouraged to reach out to hexbear users before a long duration ban.

The second is to increase transparency with regard to the site while not repeating the mistakes of previous attempts that were ultimately counterproductive, in part due to wreckers.

Previous attempts to increase site transparency and user participation were targeted by wreckers through increasing the intensity and frequency of struggle session drama.

Using matrix's increased level of user permissions as an anti-wrecking measure while having an increased barrier to sending messages with a clear process to gaining the ability to send messages, we hope to mitigate wrecking attempts.

Leading to the creation of the Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.

This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community. Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.

Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.

Sending messages will be restricted to verified and active hexbear accounts older than 1 month with their matrix id in their hexbear user profile.

All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).

Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.

To gain matrix verification, all you need to do is navigate to my hexbear userprofile and click the send a secure private message including your hexbear username.

In closing, I want to state that this site would not exist without the volunteer labor of the moderators, who I am deeply grateful for.

I would also like to take this moment to remind people that lemmy direct messages are not encrypted, and finally please use this post to discuss these changes, share community ideas, or express interest in moderation.

Application

What is your Hexbear username?

Do you have any preferred pronouns?

What are your thoughts on capitalism?

What are your thoughts on imperialism?

What are your thoughts on trans rights?

What are your thoughts on racial justice?

What do think about current and previous protests around the world?

What are your thoughts on Veganism and Animal Liberation?

Do you have any experience with other leftist online communities?

What did those experiences teach you?

What is your approach to moderation, and how do you work with teams?

How do you deal with online drama and people who try to start things for the sake of it?

What current comms would you be interested in moderating?

Do you have any ideas for community engagement?

What is your general time availability? (Time zone, amounts, common browsing times, etc)

Element informationElement is a messaging app that lets you talk to people over the Matrix protocol.

To get started, check out this link, where you can choose to either download Element for your platform or, if on a computer, open it in a browser.

The instructions that follow are for the desktop application and the web application, but the process is similar on all apps:

Press "Create Account"

We host our own Matrix server, so if you want you can change matrix.org to chapo.chat.

This is completely optional; users who sign up with a matrix.org username can still talk to people with chapo.chat username.

(Note: It is chapo.chat, not hexbear.net. Also, registrations aren't always open on chapo.chat; if they're not, just create an account on matrix.org)

Fill in a username and password

Hit register, and you're done!

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[–] NewAcctWhoDis@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This isn't a constant thing, the process is someone says: "Hey this really reactionary comment got a lot of upvotes can you check that?"

In this case, did a moderator request it? In another comment you said:

For active hexbear users, we do encourage a mod sending a warning message, however that is not required. We frequently give 1 day temp bans without such a warning and while we do wish we had more mod tools available, we work with what we've got.

but afaik mods can't see votes, only admins. Did an admin relay this info to a mod? Did a mod request the users be banned and an admin carried it out? Or did an admin initiate this? (Or am I wrong and mods can see votes in their comms?)

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

More than one person requested the admin vote audit, both mods and users.

Only admins can see votes, we are seeing if we can change that setting so all users can.

For site moderation issues, yes a mod often says "I banned this user from the community and think they need a site action"

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've said it before, but the amount of drama that public upvotes would generate would be so apocalyptic that I almost want to see it happen

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

Agreed. The outcome I see would be users interpreting upbears on a post based on how they use upbears. Given that different posters use them in different ways they'll almost certainly be at cross purposes with the people who did upvote.

It also makes it much easier for cliques to form as upbears go from being a general marker of engagement with a post to support from specific users. Now if two posts have 20 upvotes each all we really know is that people engaged with them. If we can see upvotes and know that each of those posts has upvotes from different sets of users we've not got factions. Instead of two posts with equal user engagement it's two speakers and their supporters. I see absolutely nothing good coming from that. It'll promote the formation of cliques and factions. It'd be much better to remove upbears entirely if they cannot be left alone as they are.

There is such a thing as too much accountability and anonymity does have a purpose. If someone wants to support an unpopular post, or raise a bad post to greater attention, or upbear a post to mark it as read that action would be subject to judgement by a public who does not know why the user chose to upbear or for what purpose. This is just awful all around. It's straight up a theory of mind problem; People trying to judge the intent of others with insufficient information, which isn't going to lead to accurate estimations of other people's goals or purpose.

[–] Halloweenbean@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Guangxu clique except it is 25 people from the Trans mega fighting ten people from the news mega and three guys in the middle who hate Iran because it clamped down on a niche Communist movement during the 80s.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only admins can see votes, we are seeing if we can change that setting so all users can.

This is a horrible idea. Seems like a perfect util for feds to use to deanonymize users by looking for usage and voting patterns. If this happens, I will probably only use Hexbear while logged out, and I suspect others will too, killing engagement.

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

we would definitely put this to a vote before implementing, just investigating if it is even possible.

[–] skeletorsass@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

we are seeing if we can change that setting so all users can

This would make me feel less safe. Do not think the vote opinion of user should be public. Vulnerable user more unsafe.