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Collapse of Earth's main ocean water circulation system is already happening (www.earth.com)
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[–] protist@mander.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We're likely to see a lot of suffering and disruption along with increased mortality, but humans are way too resourceful to go extinct, even with a severe disruption to the climate

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Maybe, depends on how uninhabitable the planet actually gets. We think we know what that looks like, but there are pretty wide error bars around the worst case scenarios.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hmm, even if parts of the world become totally uninhabitable, this would also mean that other parts of the world will become more inhabitable. Usually arctic areas further away from the equator.

So yes there would be a lot of death and suffering but I don’t think we’d go 100% extinct.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's no climate scenario short of nuclear winter that renders the planet completely uninhabitable by humans though. We're not facing a situation like The Road where the sunlight is completely blocked, killing every plant. Even with the worst case climate change scenarios, people are going to be able to find habitable areas and move plants to new regions where they will grow, or utilize technology to grow crops indoors, which already happens

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It doesn't have to be completely uninhabitable for it to be uninhabitable for humans.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The word "uninhabitable" usually means whether humans can live there, and I specified I was talking about humans. The earth is not going to become completely uninhabitable by humans. I'm saying you're wrong when you said "this is the last generation of humans on earth."