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[–] Hubi@feddit.org 40 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

The EU is doomed if it continues to kick this can down the road. There needs to be a decisive ruling on platforms like TikTok, Xitter and Instagram. I hope the election in Romania will be a wake-up call before other nations face the same fate.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Problem is that social media are not the root of the problem. Stupid liberal political leaders are.

They are walking a line between fascism and liberalism because they'd rather have fascism than socialism. But fascism would rather ally with other fascists, which are enemies of liberals.

Those liberal morons are literally siding with their mortal enemies because they can accept the idea that people can be more than slaves at their service.

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 25 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (5 children)

We had factual examples of deliberate manipulation, using facebook, by cambridge analytica during the brexit campaign. There were leaked communications by Bannon and one of the senior devs of CA was a whistleblower. Leave won, the UK is in the gutter. If we didn't just fucking kick those platforms and their CEOs into orbit then, we won't do it now. We already lost. Our only chance is to remove English as an official language of the EU and go back to German or Spanish or French or something else that would increase the cost of mass manipulation. The american brand of capitalism has condemned the world misery for the next 200 years just so boomers could get two vacation homes.

[–] 0x815@feddit.org 8 points 4 hours ago

If we didn’t just fucking kick those platforms and their CEOs into orbit then, we won’t do it now. We already lost. Our only chance is to remove English as an official language of the EU and go back to German or Spanish or French or something else that would increase the cost of mass manipulation.

What a logic. We won't ban it now because we didn't it then. But 'removing English' as 'official language of the EU' would help according to you. This is, of course, complete rubbish.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

The protection a unique language gives flew out the windows the moment llms came on the scene.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 15 points 12 hours ago

Our only chance is to remove English as an official language of the EU and go back to German or Spanish or French or something else that would increase the cost of mass manipulation. The american brand of capitalism has condemned the world misery for the next 200 years just so boomers could get two vacation homes.

This is why conservatives regularly complain about Quebec speaking French because having a unique language is the ultimate protection against propaganda. Note the fascist Pierre Poilievre conservatives couldn’t crack the Quebec code while the rest of Canada fell for his tricks.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

U.K. is an unfortunate example of how it can really go wrong.

I was just searching for a concise list of elections gone sideways, but unfortunately I haven't found yet the correct algorithm(/s)

I did find some other results, for elections in USA and Brazil. And, also this worrisome international Ipsos report.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Our only chance is to remove English as an official language of the EU and go back to German or Spanish or French or something else that would increase the cost of mass manipulation

I don't think it's our only chance, but it's definitely a very valid point and something that I've been thinking about quite a lot since Brexit. Foreign powers would have a much harder time if people only spoke their native languages, but it's not something that's going to change anytime soon. And it would have a lot of downsides too.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Another election possibly gone sideways due to the (abuse of) social media. Reminds me of the same spectacular electoral results in Indonesia, in which Tik-Tok played a mayor role [ see Reuters article )