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Summary

Donald Trump’s appointment of John Phelan, a private investment firm chairman with no military experience, as Secretary of the Navy has sparked backlash from some of his supporters on Truth Social.

Many pro-Trump users, including veterans, criticized the pick as rewarding a donor or friend instead of selecting someone with Navy experience.

Some expressed feelings of betrayal, accusing Trump of abandoning their values and making decisions that harm the nation.

The move has raised questions about qualifications and loyalty among his base.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

What fans said that? Seriously, all these articles and posts seem like the most pathetic form of copium.

"Oh boy, his supporters must really be feeling bad now right? Right?!" Wrong. His supporters are not having second thoughts. They're not regretting their choices. They aren't feeling betrayed. They are overjoyed, and the constant attempts to reframe that as some Leopards-eating-faces schadenfreude is the stupidest thing I've seen all year, and I watched the run up to the election.

All these fucking posts are either based around like 1-2 tweets from no-name people, obviously fake accounts, or the worst; obviously made-up anecdotal stories from leftists, desperate to feel good about themselves, about how some right-winger in their life suddenly regrets all their choices. "Oh my racist uncle is a farmer and he's really feeling betrayed by Trump now. He's sooooo mad and-" Fuck off. No he's not. You haven't talked to your estranged uncle in years and have no idea what he's feeling if he even exists.

Miserable leftists desperately pretending that right-wingers are regretting their vote and secretly feeling as miserable as them. Grow the fuck up. They aren't regretting things. They won, and they're happier than pigs in shit about it.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago

The thing these articles are doing (which sensationalist articles always do) is taking a few people's opinions and spreading it across the entire blanket "they" of whatever opposite side the article references. It appeals to people because its easier for people to generalize the whole group than to point to a niche section.

This one in particular takes a few people who are interested in the secretary of the Navy and says they're upset at the choice, which they might be, and spins it into "They're all upset at what their leader did."

You can find this rhetoric all over the political spectrum, whether it's copium or relishing. Take it with a grain of salt.

You are not immune to propaganda.

[–] 1ns1p1d@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The irony of making fun of "leftists" for believing this shit is not lost on "leftists". Most of us don't believe it. However, most Trump supporters absolutely HAVE to believe this kind of bullshit, because Trump wouldn't appeal to you WITHOUT this exact kind of dishonest media.

I think what's happening is people are angry that they have been consistently correct about their fear of Trump, yet Trumpers pretend we were wrong even when the reality is right in front of you now. Like, literally, all of the reasons we have warned about Trump are coming true.

Every single argument against Trump goes the same way. Trump supporters deny the claim. Then, when it looks like its coming true, they re-frame it with desperate speculation until it actually comes true. Then they pretend that's what they all wanted in the first place.

"Haha...the libs are angry about it...we won!...lets keep marching towards the spinning blades patriots!"

I mean, seriously. The lies! So many lies. So many PROVEN right in front of you lies? So many incoherent rants. Threats of violence. Multiple different "genres" of crimes. Venomous hatred against minorities and other human fucking beings. Is it supposed to be some kind of tacitcal political genius against people who don't get it? Why? Why don't any of you ever explain why? Wouldn't it make sense to be comprehensible to liberals too? Is he pretending to be an obnoxious, evil, demented, bully or not? He sure does a remarkable impersonation of a childish, rich, asshole.

"I will deliberately make people think I'm terrible using hateful bigotry and childish insults and nicknames but my supporters will know otherwise because only they will have the key to my secrets...and that's why liberals are stupid and my supporters are so smart"

Not much of a tactic is it?

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Around my mega family now, They have zero regrets and love every choice is making. But to them Trump is a smart business man and can do no wrong.

[–] allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Yep, my family regards him as a diety, chosen by God to lead America. He can do no wrong as he is God's vessel on Earth and acts only with divine will. So even if he makes what appears to be a mistake, it's actually all part of God's plan. Like God he is infallible.