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Make your voice heard. Tell your government that chatcontrol is not something that we will agree on!

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[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's getting harder and harder to win this fight. I'm Romanian and I'm afraid on sunday our poor/uneducated people will vote for the far right. I don't even have any idea if I can leave for other country because everywhere you look the far right is gaining political territory.

FUCK NAZIS! FUCK FASCISM!!

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 54 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is more of a government versus the people fight. No matter what form of government it is. Citizens should have privacy. Although they do not seem to be willing to fight for it. But all governments, no matter what type they are, want control.

[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Agreed, I'm pretty certain some right wingers don't want random people snooping around their private stuff as well.

And most people are unwilling to fight due to this being covered up, with the likes of save the children, or combating the terrorists.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Once it passes, whether it be this year or 10 years from now, people are just going to have to decide to break the law. If everybody breaks the law and there's basically no possibility of enforcement, then the law doesn't matter.

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That is not entirely accurate. Those laws will be selectively enforced against you in particular, cause they don't like you. This is a very common tactic in less civilized places. Have rules that no one is following and you have something to hold against your citizens when it suits you. So it does indeed matter.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

Okay, yeah, that's a fair point.

[–] chappedafloat@lemmy.wtf 11 points 3 weeks ago

problem is getting everyone to do revolution at the same time. That's one of the purposes of mass surveillance, they can detect the early beginnings of organization and send them to prison before it grows into a big snowball.

[–] chappedafloat@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 weeks ago

they also make extreme examples of anyone threatening to "blow it up", show the public all the corruption and give freedom to the people. Edward Snowden is an example. Also recently Roman Storm the Tornado Cash dev. These extreme attacks from the government are meant to cause fear so no one dares to do anything like that again.

[–] Korkki@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

It's not some break towards fascism. It's more like liberal capitalism has always had a fascist tendency and right now the western elite feels pressured everywhere so they let the mask slip and start easing in the policies of the periphery back to the core, just to keep power. This chat control is there to both allow easier crackdowns, but most of all make everybody feel that they are being watched and are less likely to start any shit against the status quo and submit, as if in a panopticon.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because the Swiss have famously never been fans of Nazis...

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

Well, up there, it does not really matter, what they do down here..