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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

i bet this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us and; given the democrat's obstinacy when it came to constructive criticism during the election; americans will treat it as another nothing-burger like they did with the genocide and it'll become yet another nail in the coffin of the american empire's decline; besides the election, ukraine's defeat, afghanistan withdrawal, iraqi wmd's, etc.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us

What do you think it has been used for up to this point?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's been done surreptitiously or academic masturbation until now

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The government knows when you masturbate The government knows when you feel alone And it's getting late and you're sitting at home

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i get that this is snark; but in case you really didn't know: snowden proved that they had this capability circa 2008 and they've only gotten better at it after 15+ years.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the corn dog ammunition belt made the american flags feel redundant. lol

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

yeah the democrats did it. ffs.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us

This feels hyperbolic.

The state protects the status quo, including whoever has money. I wouldn't limit it to surveillance. If we're just talking about the US, there's the Battle of Blair Mountain, all of COINTELPRO, Watergate (I think?), etc.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the difference is that it's in the news and has widespread appeal.

those examples were either done surreptitiously or were only academic exercises in privacy; this is real-world application of that academic theory that has the chance of not being suppressed or ignored due to its notoriety.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

ukraine's defeat

Tankie moment.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

So is this what people keep talking about when they say they see a lot of tankies in lemmy?

Cause me reading that, OP was implying the likely defeat given current trend, I did not take it as a support of Putin.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yes, it's tankie to spell out reality in the united states.

sometime i wish this were reddit so i could do remind me next year

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No it’s a tankie thing to say Ukraine lost when the war is ongoing. You just want Putin’s dictatorship to have more land.

Down with Russian imperialism.

Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦