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Let's face it, the dems don't care about the commoners, the republicans are actually pure evil, everyone was happy when that shitstain CEO got shot.

Maybe we should build on this momentum we have to drive actual change at the political level.

my first act as president in 2029 would be to issue a full and unconditional pardon of the billionaire killer.

edit:

well alrighty then, followup question, does anyone want to join my newly formed political party? I'm going to start working on drafting our mission statement, or manifesto or whatever it should be called.

Further Edit: I set up a lemmy community for us to post shit about it. If you want to join, that's our official, unofficial space. https://lemmy.world/c/newpoliticalparty

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you do. I think it’s a great idea.

But don’t fall into the “green party” loophole of just sabotaging neo-liberal democrats and helping literal facists get elected.

Start local. Run for seats you can win. Priosritise states with open primary systems.

We need a grassroots movement.

[–] chillinit@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

But don’t fall into the “green party” loophole of just sabotaging neo-liberal democrats and helping literal facists get elected.

Let me translate that for you:

I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action

If you're offended, white moderate, then take it up with MLK Jr.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Right now is actually the perfect time to create a third party. You have effectively two years to get people excited about an actual progressive party and if the DNC come knocking saying you're going to split the vote, tell them that they are splitting the vote and they should fold into you.

I'm fucking tired of the Democrats learning the wrong lessons from lost elections. They'd rather lose than give up power.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or hijack the democratic platforms like how magats hijacked republican party.

There is a reason why it worked for the Republicans and won't work for the Democrats: the bases are vastly different.

Republicans, by in large, will vote for a Republican even if they don't like the candidate. I saw this a lot when I was a poll worker. They don't even care about their platform. So long as they have an R at the end of their name, they get a vote from Republicans.

While Democrats vote Democrat, they'll only come out to vote if they are energized. They won't come out to vote if they don't feel like you've earned it. We saw this in 2016 and 2024.

Simply put, Republicans are more reliable voters.

The Democrat tent is very large with often conflicting values. A lot of single-issue voters will simply stay home than to vote for a Democrat. Because of this, it is rare when a candidate will arise that will galvanize and coalesce the base.

The last time it happened was Obama.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Doesn’t even have to be progressive per se, just an “Eat The Elites” party would probably do well as the one and only platform at this point.