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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/15995282

Real unfortunate news for GrapheneOS users as Revolut has decided to ban the use of 'non-google' approved OSes. This is currently being posted about and updated by GrahpeneOS over at Bluesky for those who want to follow it more closely.

Edit: had to change the title, originally it said Uber too but I cannot find back to the source of ether that's true or not..

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's only officially supported on google phones because sadly those are the only ones that are not modified to fuck which makes installing and supporting other OS'es way too much work.

Giving google money once for a device is not a problem from a privacy or security standpoint.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's correct, but not the reason grapheneOS chooses only pixel phones. It's the level of hardware security features.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also unlockable and presumably has well working builds. It's not just graphene, but just about every Android project it there that's best supported on pixels. Other manufacturers have a crazy variety of locking schemes and required tools. Each one is a nightmare to support.

[–] orange@communick.news 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For GrapheneOS, it's primarily that it's re-lockable. That's why other unlockable phones aren't supported.

The GrapheneOS install process sets new OS signing keys so you can lock the phone again and get full verified boot. However, most manufacturers haven't implemented this feature.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, that cuts the list down even more.

[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What do you get, app/feature wise for verified boot vs. Play integrity app? Does it increase the amount of apps that work on it?

[–] orange@communick.news 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, Play Integrity intentionally checks if it's a Google-approved key. Android itself has an API to check verified boot and gives info on the signing key - most devs just want to know verified boot is working.

I feel Play Integrity has a short life ahead of if competition authorities realise how exactly it works. "Anti-competitive" is the first thing policy-minded folks think when I explain the API to them.

[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

Hope you're right, because it basically spells the end of customizing.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

I would guess that it allows to detect tampering if you have to give your phone to the security officers and they do or don't do something with it without you present. I heard of such occurrences on the border, but this happens in other places and countries, too. Not sure if locked bootloader would help, though

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Second hand, no money for them

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

In the EU almost every phone has an unlockable bootloader, there just isn't any roms or custom recoveries for a lot of them.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Wish they'd at least support Fairphone.

If Graphene reached out to them I bet Fairphone would even actively work with them to make it an official OS option.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Fairphone would need to substantially modify their hardware to make that work