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[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I actually agree that the PRC is still presocialist but at least I didn't spit out your useless 'lol fuk u' reply.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Presocialist as in the economy isn't yet at public ownership and planning levels to be considered fully Socialist, or preparing to transition to Communism? I know you've read a lot more than I have so I'm curious what you mean here. I'm still a "baby ML."

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

As far as I know, capital, the law of value, and generalized commodity production remain phenomenal in the PRC. Their prevalence does seem to be diminishing, though, which is one reason why I think that equating the PRC with something like Imperial America is wrong.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago

I agree largely, I suppose I just use the term "Socialist" because I believe the Public Sector to be primary and the trends to be towards collectivization. The "stages" of Socialism model common among Chinese Marxists at work.