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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy asserted that no world leader has the right to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin on behalf of Ukraine.

Speaking to Le Parisien readers, Zelenskyy emphasized that Ukraine alone determines its future and any dialogue with Russia must follow a peace plan based on strength and international support.

He warned against negotiating without clear guarantees of security, highlighting the risks of Putin resuming aggression after a ceasefire.

Zelenskyy called for a strategy ensuring Ukraine's long-term stability and security, beyond NATO or EU membership timelines.

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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If Ukraine loses we will have war with Russia (now able to use their resources and people) and we will have to send our soldiers.

Military analyst Anders Puck Nielsen, who was spot on with predictions when covering this war says that is we allow cease fire without security guarantees for Ukraine this ultimately will be victory for Russia.

https://youtu.be/MhpoNL1gZbw

It looks like the vast majority of people in the West don't really understand what this war is about.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Not in 2014 and not now. I remember how no one understood in my circles what it meant when they booted out putins puppet.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't see how any of this takes away from what I said. Ukraine can't continue the war themselves, so they have no choice but to do what their benefactors wish.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So is Russia. Russia was unable to help Armenia, what we see in Syria, there are some signs of things breaking up in Libia, Georgia, we will see how Belarusian election will go in January, last time Putin needed to send his military to stop the protests.

The war economy cannot work forever and 2024 was estimated to be its peak for Russia.

The support the West is providing also is negotiable (compared to GDP) and if Russia will win in Ukraine we will have to spend 7 times more while being in actual war according to analysts.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 14 hours ago

I still don't see how any of this takes away from my point. Are you just saying that other countries have a vested interest in the continued existence of Ukraine as we know it? Because I know that, that's why they started funding the war in the first place.

Let's say that when Trump takes office he negotiates new terms with Putin. Zelensky will agree to those terms because he knows things will only be worse for his country if he continues fighting without US support.

Are you just trying to say that the us or other countries would never threaten to pull support because it would be foolish? If so, then you don't know how common fools are. What is it you think Trump means when he says he will end the war immediately after taking power?