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For the record, I’m not American nor live in the US, but I have a 19-year-old son who started attending the University of Chicago this year, studying economics. Just the tuition itself is $70k. My husband and I are lucky enough to be able to afford it - I still believe it’s an outrageous amount of money to attend college.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Then why didn't you send your kid to school in your country? Americans do not pay $70k for undergrad tuition unless it's a very expensive study.

(E: the OP corrected me below that theyre not from the Great North. Ill still leave this next part up to demonstrate that universities charge a lot more for international students than domestic but I acknowledge that I jumped the gun here)

The fact that you use the $ symbol, have socialized college tuition, and are not from the US makes me think you're Canadian. I did the reverse of your situation and used this tuition fee lookup tool from UToronto to see what I would be paying for a year of medical school. Came out to a little under $46k/ for the 2025-26 school year.

[–] 18december@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Cause the quality is not the best, he wanted to go to the US, and we can afford it. Plus the US offers many more opportunities.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Sounds like you answered your own question there. Tuition for foreign students is expensive because the ones who come here almost always have family that can pay for it. Like I said above, no American is spending $70k per year for undergrad studies. The smart ones are going to community colleges, which are becoming free in some capacity across most states, building up a GPA, and then transferring to a University off scholarships.

I spent 7 years in school without paying anything for tuition, everything was covered by scholarships. I've known many people with the same experience

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 10 hours ago

University of Chicago is a pretty prestigious school, too. Tuition-wise, it's on par with Yale, Harvard, Stanford.

UIC is half of UofC. NIU and EIU are a quarter.

OP is asking why one of the most expensive universities in the country is expensive, and assuming that all universities in the US are that expensive.

[–] 18december@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

That’s good. I’m glad there are ways for people to stay debt free or as debt free as possible. Since I always see student debt being a very big issue in the US in the news.

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

My undergraduate tuition at a state public university is under 10k a year. I was severely injured in the military though, so the government pays my bill.

What you see in the news is the result of predatory practices and people not being able to use their degrees in a profitable way. There's a lot of jokes about philosophy programs and art history degrees being a pipeline to working in fast food, because often the only way to use those degrees is to get more education (more loans) so you can teach the subject.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The biggest issues I think comes from the facts that A) there are a handful of very predatory schools with huge inter/national outreach programmes and B) highschool students are pressured into choosing their college path before graduating HS, when they're still a kid.

The kids don't know how to actually evaluate their options and end up picking the big, expensive schools just off brand recognition alone. Lots of people fell for this trap and graduated with degrees that weren't very competitive to state degrees and cost 2-10x more.

I think the next 10 years are going to see students' debt at graduation decrease as community college enrollment keeps going up and the stigma of "community college" education, which was a big deterrant for a long time, goes away.

[–] 18december@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I’m actually from Romania, and for medicine at the most popular school in the country for it here, you’d be paying 15000 lei, or $3143 per year for the 2024-2025 school year as a local. https://umfcd.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/TAXE_SI_TARIFE_UNIVERSITARE/Taxe%20UMFCD%202024-2025.pdf As an international student studying in English you’d be paying 8500€ per year.