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This new bill, signed into law by President Joe Biden, includes a provision that limits access to gender-affirming care services for the children of people serving in the military.

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[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Agreed. The political ignorance of the common American is why it is so easy able to drive these wedges.

Anyone pissed at Biden about this is not a politically smart person and are easily manipulated becuase they not only lack political intelligence but lack the ability to gauge their lack of political intelligence.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They could have just not funded the government/military, I would be fine with that.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Yea they could have. But Biden didn’t shut down paychecks for regular folks right at christmas…

You’d be fine with that.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Biden had ample opportunity to end these budget hostage sessions, but he rejected them all.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

When did Biden control legislation? Did I miss him giving multiple vetoes to previous bills? The hell does this have to do with him and not every republican screwing up congress?

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If the DNC had chosen to run progressive policies we wouldnt be here. But they didnt and here we are.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

They should have. Obama running on “change” should have clued them into something. But still, Biden didn’t elect this congress, nor write this bill, nor did he cause this mess we’re in. It’s fair to say dems didn’t swing hard enough, but the GOP has an unrelenting presence, propelling the problem and yet getting votes. Thats on Fox News not Biden.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Better than picking disposable section of society to throw under the bus in the name of compromise, why do Trump's work for him?

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

THAT IS picking disposable sections of society to throw under the bus. What are you taking about?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"we just had to do whatever Trump wanted otherwise 'regular folk' might get affected slightly"

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

You know, the "regular folks", the military members without trans children. Not the weirdos who also serve but have kids who are trans. It would be really tragic if the regular folks were inconvenienced.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yea do what trump wanted… like defunding the gov. What are you talking about?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

defunding the US military would be a great thing tbh

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's a lot more to the US government than just the military.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm aware, but it's still not vanishing overnight. We have had plenty of shutdowns in the past and this shit wasn't urgent.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Being smart about federal funding would be great. Your BS would be stupid.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean if the government shut down the US military doesn't vanish, we've had many shutdowns in the past, this shit wasn't urgent.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

True. BUT… that doesn’t mean hurt doesn’t hurt.

It’s not a group that deserves sacrifice…

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not like those active duty servicemembers with trans kids. They're a group that deserves to sacrifice, and in major ways that go beyond a delayed paycheck.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Biden. Didn’t. Write. The. Bill.

I agree with you, but let’s take this as far as it goes. Biden vetoes and then what?

The Republicans in congress suddenly change? Where’s the reality other than “Biden refuses to sign, no one gets paid this Christmas”. Veto power is strategic not really a blunt tool.

This isn’t a Biden thing it’s on the GOP and the voters that put them there. Congress wrote the fucking bill why is that Biden’s fault?

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's amazing how you frame Biden's surrender as necessary and not the GOP's. They're responsible for the bill, but despite every other shutdown being blamed on them, would just then refuse to fund the troops they claim they love so much. You've so internalized "they're crazy, they'll do anything", which isn't actually how any of these confrontations play out, that you think the only reasonable solution is "just give them what they want".

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So it’s amazing how I understand the three branches…. How they work and how specifically they are breaking down…

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, they did deny lifesaving care to trans kids, and you support this bill for that reason alone.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That’s a fuck ton to read into someone just saying we should pay people… but the trans BUT THE TRANS! No one is disagreeing with you but yourself. Well also the GOP… SO WHAT ABOUT THE TRANS!!!!

I mean for fucks sake we just had Elon Musk wave his dick around and influence this legislation and this whole thread is blaming Biden… some smooth brain shit going on here.