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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted, clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts: 1

Rules

  1. All posts must be showerthoughts
  2. The entire showerthought must be in the title
  3. No politics
    • If your topic is in a grey area, please phrase it to emphasize the fascinating aspects, not the dramatic aspects. You can do this by avoiding overly politicized terms such as "capitalism" and "communism". If you must make comparisons, you can say something is different without saying something is better/worse.
    • A good place for politics is c/politicaldiscussion
    • If you feel strongly that you want politics back, please volunteer as a mod.
  4. Posts must be original/unique
  5. Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct and the TOS

If you made it this far, showerthoughts is accepting new mods. This community is generally tame so its not a lot of work, but having a few more mods would help reports get addressed a little sooner.

Whats it like to be a mod? Reports just show up as messages in your Lemmy inbox, and if a different mod has already addressed the report the message goes away and you never worry about it.

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Communities are not owned by moderators. They are built by those that participate. The primary fallacy I see is the idea that anyone can start a different community and that size and momentum are meaningless. That is simply not the case.

An authoritarian or very active mod, in any community with public participation is actively abusing those users when they act in opposition to the interests of the community. A visible mod is a bad mod. The job of mod is as a janitor acting in the interests of the community. If you care about authority or steering, you shouldn't be a mod or admin.

Nothing about being a mod is hard. You don't need to read every post or comment. All you do is setup the basic guidelines and trust the community to vote and flag bad stuff. The community will always flag the bad stuff. The only part that really matters is that you set yourself aside and really look into any flagged issue while giving the benefit of the doubt in absolutely every possible way one can imagine while never allowing bigotry type abuse. This is how to be a good mod, to be an invisible mod. The job is only to herd bad bots and sort the flags from others.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Nothing about being a mod is hard.

Would you like to play a game?

https://trustandsafety.fun/

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Man, I'm only at the "Company Ethos" question (at the very beginning) and I already don't like the choices it's giving me.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago

That's by design

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Cute game

Suddenly ended when one of my mods mislabeled 1 post despite basically all of my stats being in the green

So, you know, totally realistic and all

[–] Forester@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's not that hard if you prioritize being objective and fair. Though maybe I'm just based.

[–] kaida@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

Thanks, that game was amazing, I loved and hated it :)

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

No, not really. What is this?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Moderation plays a big part in shaping the community. Are community guidlines not set by the mods? If there are people participating not following the guidlines they get squelched because they weren't following the rules agreed to by everyone participating in that community.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Guidelines are not rigid. The Hippocrates aphorism "first, do no harm" is key in principal and practice. A visible mod is always a bad mod.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mods aren't taking the hippocraric oath.

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

But it's a very good guideline for people who, like moderators, have power and imperfect understanding. It's saying, "when in doubt, err on the side of least possible harm". So that's a good guide. Right?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Generally yes, but I feel a lot of people will assume their grievance is some sort of gray area that needs this type of consideration when it's most likely not.

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 0 points 2 months ago

Well there is no clean connection between the rule and reality (short of forbidden word lists anyway). It's always a matter of somebody's interpretation.

Some communities have rules like "don't be a dick", which seems implied.

Maybe rules are inappropriate here. At best a justification.

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you want to shape us.

How about just letting us talk?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

But you uttered an opinion about moderation. So address my point.

... how dare I utter an opinion

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 1 points 2 months ago

But if they're saying the wrong stuff then I get to hit them with my modhammer. Right?

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Those were a lot of different points. I think they’re important and I respect your view.

I‘m not sure though if I see it exactly the same:

ownership

i think this assumes a lot. You could of course start more communities and I did so. But of course your goal can be different.

authority

I agree, authority should not be important.

modding is easy

I dont think that is the case. Modding - especially good modding - is very hard, as you mentioned yourself. A mod needs enough restraint to take their ego out of the equation and needs to see when the community rules get broken and act accordingly. A lot of bad mods are too eager or too lax with bigotry.

only flagged content needs looking at

It needs to be looked at first and the rest is optional, yes. But a mod should definitely trust their gut and be an active part in the community they mod. Ideally under a different name though so to divide between mod stuff and non.

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

be in the community but secretly ...

Oh that will work out just fine.

Bigotry

That is a very popular word lately