!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com definitely has some cases of power tripping
this post was submitted on 04 Jan 2025
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You see us as customers, by your own words. So much for community. Trying to misplace and simplify the situation using this metaphor this way is basically also another way of justifying not even ostracization, but autocracies as communities.
I see myself as a customer.
In my personal experience, the people I see posting to !modabuse@lemmy.sdf.org deserved the actions the mods took, and are looking to whine to someone.
A majority sure but probably not too much beyond 60%. There’s a lot of pretty evident bad behavior on the mods side
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It's a very mixed bag, dependently largely on the personal views of the moderators at-large relative to the speakers. For the most part, the mods at .world seem egalitarian and amicable to liberalish dissenting views. We haven't seen a slew of censorship/bannings over arguments about veganism or Israel/Palestine or capitalism vs socialism.
But the "y'all deserve to get banned" mentality is largely tied up in the idea that their ideas are bad for being outside the spectrum of your allowable discourse. Meanwhile, a community like .ml or Truth Social doing a censorship/ban on content is morally repugnant because its limiting conversations that are inside the spectrum of your allowable discourse.
The technical mechanics of these communities are the same, everyone's just arguing where the lines should be drawn.
Not to be that guy, but exactly what kind of conversation are we supposed to have with fascists and people openly calling for an end to both your and my liberties?
Ideas are debatable, but there's no debating that we all deserve to live and to exist. But I've ever only encountered far too many people from the right openly calling for the opposite of that. My own existence to them is offensive and worthy of murder. I want to have no conversation with such people, but you seem to be willing to tolerate that for the sake of "just having a conversation".
what kind of conversation are we supposed to have with fascists and people openly calling for an end to both your and my liberties?
Depends heavily on who you're dealing with. Obviously, very hard to talk to a cop in the middle of cracking your skull open. But a lot of Americans are polarized into fascism through mass media and other forms of propaganda. You have to talk to them like you'd talk to anyone else. And you have to get them disconnected from the fascist media stream as best you can.
It's less about a specific conversation and more about building trust relative to their mass media of choice. No single thing you say is going to outweigh a daily dose of right wing agitprop. So divorcing people from that mass media has to be the first step, either by keying them in on how and why the network is uncomfortable to listen to or by engaging them with alternatives.
there’s no debating that we all deserve to live and to exist.
The fascist theory is, at it's heart, that egalitarian coexistence is impossible. You are in a tribal war of domination and you either win or you die.
The counter has to be evidence to the contrary. Introducing friends and family to people who are "the enemy" but are clearly no threat. Reminding them of who they're being asked to reject.
As a newly-appointed moderator myself, I think "customer service representatives curating a space" is going a little too far. I see myself more as a janitor taking out the trash while doing my best to leave all the art alone, whether I like it or not.
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No, they're usually just power tripping. When certain people get even a modicum of power, real or imagined, they become full-on dictators at superluminal velocities. There's some crossover with powerless people seeking revenge on the world at large (or any piece of it) for their misfortune or flights against them, real or imagined. I don't have any data on the ratios but my gut instinct wild-ass guess is that at least 25-33% fall into the tinpot tyrant category.
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I agree with you.
But can we let the Karen thing go now? It's been long enough
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“The ultimate test of a society’s freedom is not how it treats its good, obedient, compliant citizens; it’s how it treats its dissidents.” - Glenn Greenwald
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As a head CSR for my job : no mod I've ever seen is anything close to providing customer service and it's hilarious that you'd even think that in passing
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Well, this is how they should operate…
But these volunteers also require that you understand they are human beings too.* and, like all humans, they sometimes make mistakes.
Please be patient, especially during busy times of the year.
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They're volunteers providing a public service for free around here, not employees.
Probably.
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