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Yesterday I fought I was a demiboy with part girl but today in confused I have no clue what my gender is. I think I might be nonbinary I'm not sure aaaaa I am confused

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[-] the_artic_one@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

That's more of a semantic disagreement with how you define "trans". If you use the definition "anyone who identifies with a gender other than the one assigned at birth" then all non-binary people are trans.

[-] retronautickz@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Not all nonbinary people identify as a gender other than the one they were assigned, though. Some identify with their AGAB, but in a way that's outside the binary.

[-] the_artic_one@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

IMO that's not the gender they were assigned at birth which is strictly binary in Western society but people use all kinds of different definitions for words.

[-] retronautickz@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

No, I mean it depends on how each nonbinary person see it.

For some people the base gender is the same, or their gender is related/derived from the binary gender they were assigned. These people may not consider themselves trans, but rather cis or any other gender modality.

There's no "IMO that's not the gender they were assigned at birth" when many non-binary people do, in fact, feel they still relate to their AGAB or that their gender and their AGAB are the same or similar.

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just because you define a label one way does not mean that other people have to accept or adopt your label. If a non-binary person doesn't want to identify as trans, do not force that label on them.

Also this statement is coming from a very western perspective. There are more than two genders in the world and there are civilizations which recognize and support genders outside the binary. Some people are not assigned gender at birth in the society they were born in, and in some civilizations their gender does match what was assigned to them by society and that identity is neither male nor female, but something else.

[-] the_artic_one@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Just because you define a label one way does not mean that other people have to accept or adopt your label. If a non-binary person doesn’t want to identify as trans, do not force that label on them.

Yes, that's why I said "**if ** you use the definition...".

Also this statement is coming from a very western perspective

Yes it is, that's why I clarified the definition the chart was using.

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