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Hop in, comrades, we are reading Capital Volumes I-III this year, and we will every year until Communism is achieved. (Volume IV, often published under the title Theories of Surplus Value, will not be included, but comrades are welcome to set up other bookclubs.) This works out to about 6½ pages a day for a year, 46 pages a week.

I'll post the readings at the start of each week and @mention anybody interested. Let me know if you want to be added or removed.

31 members! Excited to see this taking off, and proud of us for making it thus far. We have now read ¹⁄₁₈ of Volume I. The first three weeks are the densest, onwards it's smooth sailing and only needs about 20 minutes a day. We're gonna make it, comrades!

Week 2, Jan 8-14, we are reading Volume 1, Chapter 2 & Chapter 3 Sections 1 & 2.

Discuss the week's reading in the comments.

Use any translation/edition you like. Marxists.org has the Moore and Aveling translation in various file formats including epub and PDF: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

Ben Fowkes translation, PDF: https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=AA342398FDEC44DFA0E732357783FD48

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AernaLingus says: I noticed that the linked copy of the Fowkes translation doesn't have bookmarks, so I took the liberty of adding them myself. You can either download my version with the bookmarks added or if you're a bit paranoid (can't blame ya) and don't mind some light command line work you can use the same simple script that I did with my formatted plaintext bookmarks to take the PDF from libgen and add the bookmarks yourself. Also, please let me know if you spot any errors with the bookmarks so I can fix them!


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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Posting an excerpt from Theories of Surplus Value that may help clarify an important aspect of chapter one, namely, the absolutely essential role played by money in making value a general category that transcends the accidental exchange of two commodities.

TSV (my bold added)

[T]he product as value must be the embodiment of social labour and, as such, be directly convertible from one use-value into all others. […] Thus the labour of individuals has to be directly represented as its opposite, social labour; this transformed labour is, as its immediate opposite, abstract, general labour, which is therefore represented in a general equivalent, only by its alienation does individual labour manifest itself as its opposite.  The commodity, however, must have this general expression before it is alienated.  This necessity to express individual labour as general labour is equivalent to the necessity of expressing a commodity as money.  The commodity receives this expression insofar as the money serves as a measure and expresses the value of the commodity in its priceIt is only through sale, through its real transformation into money, that the commodity acquires its adequate expression as exchange-value.  The first transformation is merely a theoretical process, the second is a real one.

Thus, in considering the existence of the commodity as money, it is not only necessary to emphasise that in money commodities acquire a definite measure of their value—since all commodities express their value in the use-value of the same commodity—but that they all become manifestations of social, abstract, general labour; and as such they all possess the same form, they all appear as the direct incarnation of social labour and as such they all act as social labour, that is to say, they can be directly exchanged for all other commodities in proportion to the size of their value; whereas in the hands of the people whose commodities have been transformed into money, they exist not as exchange-value in the form of a particular use-value, but as use-value (gold, for example) which merely represents exchange-value.  A commodity may be sold either below or above its value.  This is purely a matter of the magnitude of its valueBut whenever a commodity is sold, transformed into money, its exchange-value acquires an independent existence, separate from its use-value.  The commodity now exists only as a certain quantity of social labour-time, and it proves that it is such by being directly exchangeable for any commodity whatsoever and convertible (in proportion to its magnitude) into any use-value whatsoever.  This point must not be overlooked in relation to money any more than the formal transformation undergone by the labour a commodity contains as its element of value.  But an examination of money—of that absolute exchangeability which the commodity possesses as money, of its absolute effectiveness as exchange-value which has nothing to do with the magnitude of value—shows that it is not quantitatively, but qualitatively determined and that as a result of the very process through which the commodity itself passes, its exchange-value becomes independent, and is really represented as a separate aspect alongside its use-value as it is already nominally in its price.

It seems, in Capital chapter one, that Marx argues all his conclusions follow directly from the analysis of two commodities in exchange, x commodity A = y commodity B. Then, it seems, that in order to prove the concept of value, he asks the reader to suppose mentally that although A traded for B in one instance, it could have traded for C or any other commodity. This mental exercise is not sufficient to prove the general, universal character of this third thing, value.

What proves in actuality the general, universal character of a particular concrete labor is the fact that it exchanges for the money commodity, the universal equivalent. Without money, the qualitative equality of one concrete labor with all other concrete labors is only ideal. Money makes this an actual fact by itself embodying abstract universal labor. More can be said on this point but it starts to creep outside the scope of chapter one.

Again referencing the same Rubin lecture I posted elsewhere in this thread, he explains the above, starting with a couple quotes from Marx:

Rubin/Marx

“Within the value-relation and the value expression included in it, the abstractly general accounts not as a property of the concrete, sensibly real; but on the contrary the sensibly-concrete counts as the mere form of appearance or definite form of realisation of the abstractly general ... This inversion, by which the sensibly-concrete counts only as the form of appearance of the abstractly general and not, on the contrary, the abstractly general as property of the concrete, characterises the expression of value. At the same time, it makes understanding it difficult.” (The Value Form, p.39-140).

At another point Marx says:

“It is as if together with and besides lions, tigers, hares and all the other real animals, which as a group form the various genuses, species, subspecies, families etc of the animal kingdom, there also existed the Animal, the individual incarnation of the whole animal kingdom.” (Kapital 1st ed. p.234).

To decipher this statement by Marx, we must say that in commodity production the abstract universal really appears not as characteristic or attribute of the concrete, the sensuous-real (i.e. of the concrete modes of labour), since in order to abstract the specific universal features from these concrete modes of labour, it would need a unified organ, which does not exist in commodity production. The concrete kinds of labour are therefore not assimilated one with another through abstraction of some universal characteristics, but through comparison and equation of each of these kinds with a particular determined concrete kind which serves as phenomenal form of universal labour. In order that concrete labour becomes universal, universal labour must appear in the form of concrete labour […]

Using Marx’s abstract Animal analogy, it’s as if a concrete animal (such as a living zebra) were proven to be a particular form of Animal, not by mental abstraction by a human, but by the zebra’s actual conversion into Animal. Commodities prove their value content only by being sold for the money commodity. As Rubin says, echoing Marx: “Each,” (referring to commodities and money), “is in reality what the other is ideally, and ideally what the other is in reality.”

Side note, it seems the last sentence in that excerpt could have religious implication too: ”In order that concrete labour becomes universal, universal labour must appear in the form of concrete labour.” This brings to mind Christianity, in which God as the abstract human has to emerge in a concrete human form, in order to redeem humanity as Godlike. Pretty sure Marx actually says this in some other writing.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I really appreciate your comments, and I like the idea that is by the concrete formation of money in exchange, that the abstraction of value becomes real (if I'm understanding that correctly).

I don't know if this is a term Marx uses, or if I got it from Harvey, or etc., but I like to think of it as a real abstraction. As in, the actual real act of exchanging of commodities through money is what is doing the abstraction. Abstract labor is a real abstraction because Capitalism makes this abstraction. Value becomes a real abstraction because of the concrete nature of exchange.

Perhaps I have some misunderstanding of myself, though.


What you have been writing reminds me of an article I've read by Ian Wright. I'd like to share it, and get your or other's opinions on it.

Ian Wright - What is Abstract Labour and Who Does the Abstracting

The article is about seeing Capitalism as a control system which controls, regulates, and does the abstracting through feedback loops. He later compares capital to an egregore, which is a fun analogy (and why the blog is called Dark Marxism in the first place).

The abstraction is not ours because our cognition is not performing the abstraction. We are not the abstractor. Instead, the mysterious abstractor is taking the measurements about labour time and connecting the form of value, which is money, to its content, which is abstract labour.

The details get more into what Capitalism is as a system, and we aren't at that point yet in Marx's work. Capital is what creates exchange value, and is what makes abstract labor. If already familiar with capitalism, then the description is not new, but the recontextualization of thinking of it as a control system, or even an egregore is still illuminating.

Wright starts by sharing your concern

that Marx’s argument — for the proposition that the special common property shared by all commodities is labour — is unsatisfactory.

While your solution is to go forward with finding how money concretely makes this abstraction in exchange, Wright takes a similar approach but also goes beyond exchange and talks about capital's profit maximization as the abstractor which makes abstract labor a real abstraction.

So capital controls concrete labour, the real labouring activities of the working population in all their diverse manifestations. And capital controls actual labour-time... It is capital itself that holds a metaphorical stopwatch in its hand, measuring and accounting, and judging and condemning...

And the goal of capital is to convert concrete labour into abstract labour, into the kind of labour that both fits into the division of labour, so it can be exchanged against other labour ... in order to yield profits for the capitalist firm...

In other words, “abstract labour” is manifested, brought into reality, by capital itself. Maximising profit is identically the process of maximising the manifestation of abstract labour out of concrete labour.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Adding on to my previous comment, there is a well-known refutation of the model used by Ian Steedman which Ian Wright invokes in his category-mistake paper. Andrew Kliman and Ted McGlone published this refutation in their paper on the temporal single-system interpretation (TSSI). You can see that Equation 2 in Wright's paper, his definition of standard labor values, is the same as Equation 3 in the TSSI paper. So, the refutation is quite directly targeted at the interpretation used by Wright, which he uses to justify his modification of Marx's theory.

Fun fact, the partner of Radhika Desai — frequent contributor to Geopolitical Economy Report on YouTube — is Alan Freeman. Freeman is an associate of Kliman and has also long argued in defense of the TSSI.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey no worries! I enjoy these comments, they get me thinking. Especially because while I am aware of TSSI, I haven't studied it in depth as much as I have Wright's work. I consider myself still learning off of this, so taking time to give Kliman's work more thought is just a continuation of my own learning. I will admit, that I have some gut feeling that the labor theory of value should, and can, be a quantitative theory which also can explain value and price formation. And maybe it turns out I'm completely wrong, but I'll just keep reading and learning and seeing where it leads. In fact, this is something that excites me about this reading group. I'd like to go through Capital with others here with these debates in mind. My own understanding of Ian Wright's work also comes from Shaikh's interpretation of how the Transformation Problem is to be interpreted in his paper "Neo-Ricardian Economics: A Wealth of Algebra, A Poverty of Theory" (its title continuing the Marxist trend of being snarky and sarcastic lol). In it, he does criticize neo-Ricardians dismissal of value and the LTV, and he argues that the correlation between surplus value and profit is preserved if one considers not just the circuit of capital, but also the circuit of revenue - considering the surplus value that is consumed by capitalists when they purchase consumption items. Shaikh also reiterates this argument in his lectures for his book Capitalism: Competition, Conflict, Crises. This is essentially (as I see it) what Wright's capitalist consumption matrix C is measuring in his "super-integrated labor-values." Of course, the difference in our understanding sounds like it comes down to how quantitative vs qualitative Marx's theory of value should be, and whether the entire input-output framework is the right way to approach this.

I definitely get what you mean, though, by writers which tend to "modernize" Marx. I often get a bad taste in my mouth by them too, and usually some alarm bells go off. Given that, I think my STEM-bias though makes me inclined to think that the LTV can be quantitative, though, and that "the numbers should work out". And Wright's explanations make sense to me given that mindset. But, like I said, I need to give TSSI a fair investigation too. It's just sometimes not fun going through years of (often harsh) debates back and forth between the various interpretations of Capital.

This is fun, though. And, like I said, I'm excited to keep these debates in mind as we continue reading!

I'll give more thoughts as they come to me. And feel free to share your writings on Marx's value theory being more valuable as a qualitative theory.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

rosa-salute thanks for your message Sebrof. I’m going to bed now. I don’t have much to say, except that I totally agree that there is a quantitative side to Capital that has to work out numerically. And it does, with a correct interpretation (the qualitative aspect). For example, labor is the content of value, but only a particular kind of labor. The theoretical work required to understand the kind of labor, and as what commodities are compared, is the tofu and potatoes of the book.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks for your responses, I really appreciate them rat-salute . I don't have more to add at this point either. I'm sure there'll be more to discuss as we continue reading, and as I read the TSSI papers as well. I'm looking forward to it!

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

About five years ago, I read Ian Wright's paper about the "category mistake" in Marx, so I'm familiar with him. I also read the article you shared here, thank you.

Wright is not the first to use the term real abstraction. I believe it was first used by Alfred Sohn-Rethel of the Frankfurt School. Sohn-Rethel's work is intriguing — I have had his book Intellectual and Manual Labour in my to-read list after reading the introduction a few years ago. I am not knowledgeable enough about the precise usage of the term real abstraction to have an opinion on its validity as used by the Critical Theorists. Doubtless, Marx believed that abstractions (such as value) have a real, material presence in the world. This kind of abstraction does not exist merely in the mind, because in fact the abstract concepts are a reflection of material reality. Furthermore, it would not be possible to simply "think away" abstractions such as money without changing the basis for those abstractions.

I'm not quite sure where to place Wright. Is he a Sraffian? a neo-Ricardian? a "Critical Theorist"? It seems like he takes inspiration from each of these, but belongs to none. In any case, like those schools, much of Wright's effort is focused on correcting mistakes which he alleges Marx made, in order to "modernize" the Marxian theory or settle old debates. This honestly rubs me the wrong way and I have a hard time reading Wright for that reason.

I basically agree with the introductory third of Wright's article about abstract labor. He loses me when he says that capital is the "abstractor". The stuff about control also seems quite out of left-field, not motivated by anything inherent in the subject matter, but an assertion that he hopes will click with the reader. It would resonate with a certain STEM-minded person (such as myself), especially given his other work which is heavy on linear algebra. But it kinda falls flat for me. In his attempt to clarify Marx, he ends up more confusing.

As for Wright's linear algebra-based approach to Marx's theory of value, I think he has made an error due to misunderstanding the qualitative aspect of Marx's theory of value, which Marx emphasizes in several places as the most important advance over Ricardo and classical political economy. Wright, like Ricardo and neo-Ricardians (e.g. Sraffa) conceive of value almost purely quantitatively. The problem with modeling Marx's theory of value in terms of input-output models is that it conceives of value in terms of technical labor inputs; i.e., the value of a product is the sum of its concrete labor inputs. I can explain more if needed but I think it's clear that this is a serious departure from Marx, barely recognizable as Marxist and more properly termed Ricardian in my opinion. Marx was not interested in a quantitative theory of price formation. His focus was on a qualitative theory of value, because he recognized Ricardo's incomplete conception of value as what stalled Ricardo's progress.

I'm sorry if this isn't the response you were going for. I actually appreciate discussing Wright's ideas because spending 2-3 weeks pondering his paper, and ultimately rejecting it, helped me very much in clarifying my own understanding of Marx. I also don't mind if you disagree with what I wrote here. Thanks again for the reply and also I appreciate your input to these threads as well!