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Eh, I don't really care if they stop using Windows, I care that they start using Linux. Dual boot if you need, but more market share for Linux increases the likelihood that devs will support Linux directly.
For sure. I'm doing the dual boot life these days because as much as I want every game to work on Linux there are still some that don't. And some games just work better on Windows. But at the same time that's why more devs supporting Linux is what we wanna see.
I'm always curious tochear what games people aren't able to run in Linux. Which ones are you unable to run?
openSUSE, Mass Effect Legendary Edition does not boot on my setup, but on ProtonDB, it says gold. Just using Proton did not work for me, so I don't know what extra BS people did to get it running, but yeah. That's a recent one I've run into.
Not super familiar with openSUSE, but you could get protonup-qt and install Proton-GE.
I tried that too, as I did have the GE option under compatibility when trying different versions. It just won't install EA's shitty app. I feel like on one of the Proton versions, it did "install" and booted up, but then just showed a black screen with nothing afterwards. I shut it down to try again because I know how finicky these things can be, and then the EA app was saying t wasn't installed. I gave up after about an hour and went back to Windows. I work way too much to be able to sit there and tinker with this crap when I get off from a 10 hour shift...
I mean, use the tool that fits the job. I could probably help point you in the right direction. Is it from steam, or straight EA play app?
You're very kind to offer at least. I only use Steam. I bought it way back before I really understood that they require you to use their stupid third party brick. The sales got me, I will admit. $20 for three great games sounded so good. :/
The way I see it, Linux is supposed to be open, including sharing of knowledge. I am a big fan of that ideology. Information should be shared. And if I didn't have folks willing to help me, I'd never have learned all I know. So I try to pass it on!
Let me know if you'd like some help, and I can try when I am not at work.
That’s how I’ve always viewed Linux, and just knowledge in general. Thank you for being kind enough to offer. I honestly haven’t had someone come off the way you did in a very long time, both online and in real life.
I wanted to update you and let you know I was able to get the game running on openSUSE. My issue was that I was trying to get WeMod to work with the game, and had forgotten about the launch options for WeMod. So, after taking the launch options back to blank, it booted up slowly but surely, and it was fine.
I also figured out I can take the game files from my Windows SSD to use in openSUSE. Which means the mods I installed on Windows when I was playing, seamlessly pulled over to Linux. That’s pretty damn cool.
I think after work today, I might try to fiddle with Layla Launcher and see if the cheats on there will work.
Thank you again. You are very kind!
Always glad to help! A little kindness goes a long ways!
And glad to hear you got it working, and thanks for the update! I love when people do that. If I ask about an issue online I go back and update with the solution in hopes it helps someone!
It's mostly the problems with anti cheats. The one that comes to mind is Helldivers. I already hated the anti cheat for that game but it's impossible on Linux. If I was still into Apex Legends I'm sure Easy Anti Cheat would cause some issues but I'm not sure. If Easy Anti Cheat doesn't work then there are a lot of games to add to that list like Halo and The Finals. I can't name a lot off the top of my head but Easy Anti Cheat is super popular with devs of online games.
Proton has modules for EasyAntiCheat. I have played Halo on Arch. I don't know about Helldivers, or Apex. But I absolutely know anticheat is an issue on Linux. Well if you ask me it is more so that these Kernel level anti-cheat mechanisms need to die.
(iirc) Apex worked great up until recently, when they started deliberately banning Linux players.
Helldivers or Helldivers 2? HD2 runs very well in Linux.
Helldivers 2. It kept crashing so I figured it was because of the anti cheat. Perhaps it was just user error and I need to try again.
I've played Helldivers 2 for over 400 hours now, and all of that has been on linux.
Look it up on protondb, there's some launch options you could try.
I'm starting to wonder if that's true. I thought so do but now I'm wondering, especially with compatibility layers like Proton, and even Wine before that, and plenty of tools like Electron, Unity, etc helping to be cross-platform, if the lack of support is rather due to bad habits instilled by years of Microsoft partnership with manufacturers (and thus driver support) implying that drivers must be kept secret and thus Linux support is "bad for business" and that then cascades down to developers then users.
I think it's more that devs see Linux support as a liability. Linux market share is low, and supporting Linux opens them up to Linux specific cheats, so they'll need to spend resources on Linux specific mitigations. Why do all that for ~2% market share, most of whom seem content not playing their games?
I don't think we need to jump to conspiracy theories. If Linux adoption gets to 10% or so and still see this issue maybe the conspiracy theory carries some weight.
If linux breaks 5 or 10% marketshare on hardware surveys, developers will start thinking about the 300-600 dollars they lose every 100 sales simply from disabling anti-cheat on linux.