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[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Explain exactly how using a Chinese app will negatively impact the average American. Don't use vague threats, use evidence based examples. I'll wait.

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Chinese app”? I’m sensing some defensiveness here.

Using any for profit data harvesting app has great financial incentive to negatively impact anyone, evidence based government back-doors or not.

I’m sure there’s some lovely Chinese-made fediverse wrappers or locally hosted communities with good moderation. Idk, I don’t speak Chinese.

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You're sensing frustration at America's consistent sinophobia.

Using any for profit data harvesting app has great financial incentive to negatively impact anyone

Pretty sure I said:

Explain exactly how using a Chinese app will negatively impact the average American. Don’t use vague threats, use evidence based examples.

So far I've responded to about 6 people and no one's been able to articulate any sort of tangible negative impacts, just vague threats and handwringing.

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Dang, nobody spent 20 minutes of their life citing sources about a tangentially related topic you randomly sprung on them in a Lemmy comments section? Instead they had negative reactions? They must be sinophobic - stay strong brother your next comment will surely win the lurkers over ✊

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So why bother replying to my very specific question if you don't have anything to contribute? Oh yeah, because your mum brought you up to think that your opinions are special and everyone should hear them. Way to go, champ.

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I’m just very charmed by your CharmOffesive comrade! I cannot help myself - I’m compelled to reply~😍

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you ever been on tiktok? You will lose braincells quicker than drinking gasoline.

It should genuinely be considered self harm to have a tiktok account.

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't disagree, but I also feel the same about X and Facebook and neither of them have copped a ban.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, but don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'd rather no moderation than one sided political moderation.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I would strongly disagree.

Like if you banned being a Nazi, but not being part of the KKK, that's still better than "no moderation"

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

What you have at the moment is the government banning being a communist, but fully allowing being a Nazi on X and Facebook.

If you're going to let Nazis thrive, at least let the communists counterbalance them.

[–] gubblebumbum@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It allows any pos to spread their garbage misinformed opinions as facts. its full of adult weirdos making softcore porn knowing the platform is full of minors and many intentionally targeting their content towards them. Its full of grifters peddling pseudoscientific supplements, cosmetics, medical advice etc. Its full of rwnj and pseudo progressives from all over the world spreading populist propaganda. It also makes it easy for any anti social pos to get famous.

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Sorry, are you describing X or Facebook with your comment?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gubblebumbum@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

which is banned where i live

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China controlling the narrative might be a bit worrying. Not sure how much that reflects in the daily life of a single person but for societies it does have some implications.

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (25 children)

It's no more worrying than the misinformation being spread on Facebook and X, in large part by Russian troll farms or Murdoch's media empire, but somehow it's China that's the real problem. I see no reason why anyone should be fear mongering about the dangers of using a Chinese app any more than using X.

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[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (8 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I agree with you, but that's a Meta scandal. If anything it proves that the right move would be to regulate the platforms. Not just ban foreign ones.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Oh yes, I agree! I provided an example of a TikTok campaign in a later comment. It's not the source that's the problem, it's that everyone is trying to manipulate (but the ones controlling the platform have way more feedback and control, of course).

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