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Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.

This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community.

Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.

Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.

Sending messages will be restricted to verified and active hexbear accounts older than 1 month with their matrix id in their hexbear user profile.

All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).

Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.

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Hexbear Meta Open-Floor Post (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 weeks ago by CARCOSA@hexbear.net to c/hexbear@hexbear.net

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Hello users of Hexbear, there have been many changes and some drama the past few months.

The recent changes we've been making have been an attempt to create a more safe and welcoming environment for many demographics that have been overlooked in the past.

For any of our comrades that have been unintentionally hurt in this process, we apologise and hope to find a solution that accommodates as many people as possible while still meeting the needs of the marginalised groups who need a space like this the most.

The intent of this post is to provide a space for all users to air grievances with regard to the site. As well as provide suggestions for specific things that could be changed to address your grievance. Comments insulting the mod team or those without a specific means to address your problem may be removed. No commenter will be sitebanned, unless it clearly breaks the code of conduct.

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[–] transnationalmaoist@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there a specific actionable policy change (or several) the admins could make to fix this issue?

Yes I already suggested it in my original comment: make those low effort comms invisible by default (i.e. opt-in) so that people who are just lurking/logged out/newcomers don't get bombarded by them.

On #2, again, they aren’t “drowning out” other posts just because there’s sometimes a lot of them, they also have to get upvotes and comments to be featured, and they all decay in the rankings in the same way, it’s all going through the same simplistic sort algorithm. This case could be made about any of our posts not just the most frivolous ones. Don’t post or upvote or comment on anything even remotely unserious, because other things are more important? Is that the kind of site we want to be, or what brought people here?

They are, they absolutely are. This didn't happen a year ago, or two years ago. The number of super low effort "shit" posts has absolutely increased. And making it a "personal responsibility" thing by saying "just don't upvote" is very patronizing. We don't tolerate that when it comes to racist/misogynist/etc. stuff by saying "just ignore that stuff don't upvote it." That's some reddit shit.

On #3, don’t you think it’s cruel to call out specific people for having an “addiction” in your words, and using the site to cope?

I'm just calling it as I see it. I've seen users describe other users as XYZ/whatever based on their comments so why am I not allowed that same right?

[–] Aceivan@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And making it a "personal responsibility" thing by saying "just don't upvote" is very patronizing. We don't tolerate that when it comes to racist/misogynist/etc. stuff by saying "just ignore that stuff don't upvote it."

Because those things are actually harmful. The point isn't "its your responsibility not to upvote them" it's "the upvotes show that other users actually do enjoy them". It's the opposite, it's nobody's responsibility to cater their posting or upvoting to you.

I'm just calling it as I see it.

This is some actual reddit shit. I'm not saying you don't have the right, I'm not a mod, whatever, it's just a shitty thing to do.

Edit: also your suggested change does not resolve the contradicition between trying to be Serious Leftists and a shitposting site. it just hides some of the shitpost genres that you don't like, it's almost unrelated