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Corinne Busche, director of Dragon Age: The Veilguard, departs BioWare (www.eurogamer.net)

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It's tough to express how much of a bummer this whole mess has been. Veilguard is such an embarrassingly lazy, shallow experience.

Placing all of the blame on Busche isn't fair, as she was brought in at the end of the development process, but it was her leadership that prevented the game from getting the extra time it needed.

The creative and design aspects of the game's failure falls primarily on John Epler's lap.

BioWare was so special for such a long time. Watching them fumble the ball directly into the deepest part of the toilet three times in a row feels completely insane.

Fuck EA forever, man.

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[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t think so. The writing of Taash was so bad and uncomfortable for the most part that I genuinely didn’t know if they were trying to mock trans-people with this representation

I disagree. The writing of Taash, while basic, has a lot in common with folks early in discovering their trans identity. Yeah, it is awkward and uncomfortable. Guess what, self introspection often is. I would say with Taash we see a lot of what would be internal struggles being vocalized. The good news is that Taash isn't the only character you can interact with.

Breaking with an established formula can be a big detriment to a franchise.

Of course it can, but it doesn't solely make it a bad game.

Veilguard, on the other hand, doesn’t get better. It just stays bad and even confusing at times.

I disagree. I really like the gameplay. It gets better almost immediately after the tutorial, though the tutorial is a little long for my taste.

All time peak on steam is 90k - that’s horrendous. Obviously, that’s not the total sales and it’s also sold on other platforms, so we do not know the real number. However,the game went on discount not even 2 months after release, and a pretty hefty one at that, 35% I think.

Yeah, again, I don't think the numbers are great, but 90k on 1 of 4 or 5 big platforms isn't dismal. And the discount could be telling, but (I just looked it up) it was around 29%, which is still $50. Part of that could be backlash to the $70 AAA price tag. All that being said, all of this is speculation without numbers being released from EA

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The writing of Taash, while basic, has a lot in common with folks early in discovering their trans identity. Yeah, it is awkward and uncomfortable.

Maybe it is, idk. Doesn't really change the fact that the character is absolutely unlikeable. There's also no real explanation on the "why" - it's just a disrespectful, rude and arrogant character, and that's how most people saw that character.

This topic would be great fot a dontnod game in the style of life is strange where the background of the character is represented appropriately so you actually have a chance to understand the character and why these negative character traits exist in the first place.

Veilguard was just the completely wrong platform for this kind of character development.

And the discount could be telling, but (I just looked it up) it was around 29%, which is still $50.

Dunno where you saw that, steamdb (https://steamdb.info/app/1845910/) has it listed on 38.99€ at a 35% discount, which is horrendous for a not even 2 month old release.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 1 points 7 hours ago

It might just be that Taash isn't the companion for you. I did not find them unlikable, just incredibly direct.

Dunno where you saw that, steamdb (https://steamdb.info/app/1845910/) has it listed on 38.99€ at a 35% discount, which is horrendous for a not even 2 month old release.

I found an article from about 3 or 4 weeks after release, so clearly the price dripped a couple times. And agreed, it is a bad sign for sales