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How much do you blame the people who voted for Trump or other fascists? (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 hours ago by Mr_Fish@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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To be clear, I am only talking about people like the average working class Trump voter. The ones who just got caught by misinformation, and just haven't been able to find a way out. Trump and all his mates are terrible people, and should be held accountable.

The average voter is another thing. My attitude is that I got lucky, and found out that Trump and his mates are terrible, instead of getting sucked down a rabbit hole of supporting them. Knowing how fascism works, I don't know if I'd be able to reliably land on the right side if fascism happened in my home country. And if I don't believe I could reliably spot fascism, I'm not comfortable acting like those who support Trump could have.

This isn't a discussion of "just be a good person". I know plenty of amazing, caring people who believe they're doing the right thing.

This whole idea of "I can't say is reliably avoid fascism" is based on this, the school that became fascist for a week. As bad of an experiment that was from that teacher, it was an effective way of teaching how people fall for what should be obviously a bad thing.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Not trying to start an argument, just trying to make a point because I've been seeing "Genocide Joe & Kamala Cheney" around a lot lately.

What makes you immune to the propaganda? When I see name calling and throwing blame, it's the exact same shit we see from Republicans. It just seems childish when we could have had actual debates. I'm not saying Kamala did a good job. She was a trash candidate.

And I'm saying this not to be a dick, honestly. I'm just saying maybe you've been drinking the Kool-Aid this whole time. The only difference is that it's blue raspberry instead of cherry. Maybe give that a thought the next time you call a single dad struggling to buy food for his kids a fascist to his face. Because that's the easiest way to get them to do the exact opposite of what you want.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'd love to hear your thoughts about how the genocide in Gaza was all made up

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Had a long winded comment written out but decided against sending it because like I said, I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm just trying to raise some points.

But just so you know I don't think the genocide in Gaza is made up. And i think its fucked up that the US decided it doesn't matter because Israel is our ally. But at the end of the day I'd vote against fascism any day of the week. Because that's how you get even more genocide. And an abstained vote is a vote for your enemy.