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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And until you actually get that revolution started, sitting around and talking about it while blaming EVERYONE ELSE, is just as helpful as the people watching Fox News every day.

Again, I get it. And I support your revolution, but until you're ready and willing to actually start it, you should support mine.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Liberals do not have a revolution, complacency and conformity to the status quo is not revolution. Realizing that Democrats are not our allies is the beginning of that revolution

And continuing to repeat the same failures year after year after year is not a very compelling argument to support you

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You could have voted for Harris, and convinced other people that it didn't matter how bad she was, because the other option, and there were ONLY 2 choices lets not kid ourselves, is trump and thats worse in ALL possible ways

You could have done everything to stop Trump, and also still start your revolution under Harris. Nothing stopping you from voting for the objectively better choice while continuing to figure out how to construct the world you believe in. The enemy of your worst enemy IS a better choice than the worst choice

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago

And you could have voted for Stein or Claudia Del la Cruz, In first past the post, the one with the most votes wins and dems could have helped make that happen. We've tried the Democrat way for generations and things just keep getting worse. And for Democrats, it's always been do it my way this time and then we can do it your way next time. The problem is that I've been hearing that for 50 years and next time never comes because the Democrat leadership will always give you a boogeyman to fear, something to vote against.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Like I said, it's all just big talk until you fucking DO SOMETHING. Talk to me when you get started.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's a cute assumption to believe that I am doing nothing. I've been doing something for years, part of that doing nothing is getting people to realize Democrats want the exact same end game as Republicans and none of it is for the benefit of the working class. They serve the donor class, the 1%, at our expense. If I was actually doing nothing as you claim we wouldn't be in this discussion, but discussions like this make liberals like yourself uncomfortable so they lash out. Liberals don't like leftists because we make them feel like bad people. That's why they try so hard to morally lash out at us whenever they can. They understand that many of the policies they advocate are unethical but can't oppose a system they benefit from so they tear us down.

So not only are leftists fighting the system, we also have to fight Democrats that are constantly punching left when they should be punching up. But Democrats will breathe their final breath defending the status quo, defending the systems of exploitation and oppression.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And I wish you the best of luck, let me know when you've successfully talked the world into being a better place. I'll be the first to thank you. Hell, check in every now and then with progress updates, and I'll cheer you on. But, since you haven't said otherwise, I'm guessing you wasted your opportunity to prevent Trump from taking office. So, I'll just see how YOUR plan works out for us.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Your plan was to put in someone that denied Gaza is experiencing a genocide, that locked trans in women up in men's prisons, arrested black women for their students being tardy, embraced war criminals, blew Republican dog whistles like using the word Patriot and gun usage, has never won a single electoral vote in her life. Was pulling at the same level as Biden who polled at one of the lowest levels ever for a president.

We saw how the Democrat plan worked out for all of us in 2020, and we all got fucked. Democrats fucked up in 2016. Gave us Trump Democrats fucked up in 2024. Gave us Trump.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like you're happy with the situation that you, and others like you have put us in. Like I said, hope it works out. Thanks for nothing.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Democrats put us in this situation in not leftists. Democrats decided that genocide was not a red line, that militarizing police to be used against its own citizens was a red line, The failing to protect marginalized communities while using them as political pawns was not a red line. Liberals are their own worst enemy and they point fingers at other people to blame them for their own inability to govern.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Cool. Let me know when it's fixed. Or if you have a plan. That's a good start.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Have you seen the executive orders alone that YOUR choice of trump has caused? THIS is better than "denieing that there is a genocide in gaza" ?

Holy wow dudez thats just wow.

You empowered the acceleration of something you hated simply being denied and not supported

This is what 2025 looks like.

We DO live interesting times

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sometimes things just have to be burnt down to be rebuilt. Liberals love talking about accelerationism while denying the fact that their incrementalism has turned their party into right winged reactionaries. Your party has gone from people Like Jimmy Carter to people that are denying a Holocaust while chumming up with other war criminals.

How's that incrementalism working out for you?

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

First I'm not American so neither are my party. Second at his inauguration he had the richest man in the world so the nazi heil. Twice

If that's not a fucking problem for you then you are b loody hopeless as you are now

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It may as well be your party, you're supporting them. Like I'm sure you are supporting their equivalent in your country. Fascism is incapable of gaining a stronghold in politics without the help of a complicit liberal party.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

That's incredible