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re: this article.

The title is a joke. "Free, but you have to make an EGS account" is a bit too rich for me.

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[–] 5190tent@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ever other platform is just ass. I have played games on Epic, Battlenet, Ubisoft and the EA launcher but they all barely have basic functionality. Meanwhile steam has:

  • good UI (store & settings)
  • no forced ads
  • reviews
  • discussions
  • workshop
  • player stats
  • a lot more settlings / options

Steam seems to be the only one that actually puts any effort in providing a good user experience. It's more than just a store / launcher and noone else is even trying to compete.

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Don’t forget non-profitable free-to-use features such as:

  • Steam Link
  • Cloud storage for saves and screenshots
  • Over the internet couch co-op (I don’t remember the name.

And there’s probably more that I’m forgetting. These things cost Valve money to make and maintain. Only a small portion of users actually use these features and yet it’s not locked behind some subscription or whatever and instead can be used by all users of the platform.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

They cost money to make, but the only one of those that costs them a significant chunk to maintain is cloud saves. As far as I can tell their streaming solution is strictly peer-to-peer, in the vein of Moonlight or Parsec.

And all of those are definitely profitable for Steam via... well, look at this thread. Their technological advantage on the client feature set is worth billions to them. They are in the process of spinning it off into a separate hardware platform and OS. That's Microsoft money they stand to make, on top of all the Microsoft money they are already making.

I mean, those are cool, don't get me wrong, they have by far the best feature set in the PC market, and arguably in all of gaming... but it's not a gift, it's either feature parity with competitors or investment in their market position.

[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Theres also steamvr link to make meta's quest headsets better and also all the steam for linux stuff like proton and gamescope

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What do you mean "no forced ads"? It throws up a separate window with store sales every launch?

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can turn that off, you know

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can turn that off in Windows as well, yet people still complained. And with good right.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Still think it's a bit different, steam is essentially a store so I'm expecting to see a promotional banner when I walk in. Windows is a "paid" product that shows you more ads on something you already "own".

[–] Marighost@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Those are promotions, really. Not advertisements. Steam is showing me relevant video games that are available, not a sale on Coca-Cola.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Of fucking course Steam isn't advertising soda, they sell games. It's still an advertisement... just because it's relevant to the platform you're on doesn't mean it's not an advertisement.

[–] sep@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Turn it off in the settings if it annoys you..

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I did turn it off. That doesn't really have anything to do with my comment though.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Go to any other storefront and see if you can turn off the ads

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also not really relevant. My only point was that they are ads.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes but the relevant point of the conversation was that they are not forced ads. If you don't like them then turn them off and you'll never see it again. That does not happen on any other storefront.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To be clear, I agree Steam letting you turn off advertisements is great, and that I can't think of any other storefronts that do it. But while that may have been the relevant point to the original topic, it's not the point I was commenting on. Which is why I didn't respond to the first comment.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Exactly, I actually go thru this page every so often, just wish it would show me VR titles only, don't care/have the drive to play flat games anymore. It would be annoying if it were ads for stuff not on steam, promote away steam

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I fail to see the distinction. If I want to just play a game, it's still getting in my way.

[–] Marighost@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Turn it off then and quit complaining about something so insignificant.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Up until this thread, I had tried several times to find out how to disable it. That setting name is obviously obfuscating itself.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

"notify me about promotions and new releases" is confusing?

[–] MudMan@fedia.io -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am screaming at the reality distortion field. I can feel my molecules being pulled into a million parallel realities just reading this.

[–] Marighost@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Then stop reading. Some of you people are really aggravating.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who people? Reality people?

These conversations are always so weird. People are here going "yeah, Steam is the best client, but maybe it's fine to have some competition on PC storefronts" and this army of borderline religious devotees just crawls from under the ground to tell you how when Steam does ads they're not ads, they're the Good Word of Gaben bestowed upon us.

I don't even like the Epic store.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People are here going "yeah, Steam is the best client, but maybe it's fine to have some competition on PC storefronts"

Except what actually was said was:

i don't get the "steam good, other launchers bad". it's still a launcher and drm...

If you're going to call yourself a "reality person" then stick to what is actually happening in reality.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, no, that's... all consistent with what I'm saying. Yes, they are all DRM platforms. And the reason you'd want more than one of them is that a monopoly on retail is bad, whether Epic, MS, Valve or whoever else have it.

One thing being said doesn't mean it's the only thing being said. This, as always with this subject, is a very bizarre conversation.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So you're complaining about some phantom conversation you may have had somewhere else?

Show me where in this comment chain someone said "maybe some competition would be good" and got push back on that. Closest I see is "the competition is bad", not "bad that the competition exists" but "it is executed poorly".

I agree that competition is good, nobody is complaining about GoG like they do about Epic. Saying "Fuck Epic" doesn't mean the person doesn't like multiple platforms existing, it means they don't like this specific platform (and they usually say the specific reasons why).

[–] MudMan@fedia.io -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, not a phantom conversation, a conversation I was actually having. Here. You replied to me, not the other way around.

There are, by the way, several posts in this thread literally stating, and I quote, that "ever [sic] other platform is just ass", "even GOG, which I always shill for, has some pretty dumb faults" and "Not on Steam? (...) the seas will provide".

Sure doesn't sound like it's a Epic-specific issue. Although I'd argue the Epic-specific console wars discourse is equally silly.

It's the sheer fanaticism and the taking of sides that gets weird, considering how inconsistent it is with other narratives often held at the same time. Kudos to Steam's PR, but man, is it weird to see happen online.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Not on Steam? (...) the seas will provide".

That ellipses is doing some heavy lifting for you there:

Not on Steam? No direct release? Steam released, but with a bunch of bolt on EULAs/Denuvo/3rd party launchers?

The seas will provide.

Why that's not nearly as pro-Steam as you are implying.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

Man, I knew I'd get the nitpick if I didn't include the overlong quote. Welcome to the Internet, I suppose.

It is absolutely as pro-Steam as I'm implying and not the only quote in my post. I take nothing back and have nothing to add.

[–] rautapekoni@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

I think there is a toggle for this in the UI settings.