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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 56 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Well, bluesky isn't the fediverse, but the point stands.

[–] Gigliorananomicom@sh.itjust.works 34 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

I'm ignorant af tbh 😅 Thanks for the clarification

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Part of their marketing seems to be to create confusion about it. Bluesky uses the language and values of the fediverse to promote what is essentially another closed network. Meta is also doing this with Threads. Bluesky seems like a chill place and a lot of decent people seem to be very happy there, and they provide a lot more user controls than other networks, so the comic definitely still works.

[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 33 points 19 hours ago

I think Mastodon would be what you're looking for.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 16 points 19 hours ago

Bluesy is a business, Mastodon is a community tool that runs on the ActivityPub (same as Lemmy which is what we are talkin on).

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 16 hours ago

It sort of depends on how you define fediverse. If you mean things using the ActivityPub protocol and are federated with Mastodon, Lemmy, etc. then no, it's not part of the fediverse. If you mean anything using federated technology then you could possibly include it. https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/federation-architecture It uses something called AT instead of ActivityPub. I'm not personally aware of any other services or instances using it, but I also didn't look very hard.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You're correct. But blue sky does support federation, just not the same protocol as the fediverse, right?

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

BlueSky does not support federation in any way that we understand the word.

It is 100% reliant on the corporate server(s). They do offer a way to host your own data, which solves a singular problem with corporate media, which seems to be what they mean when they promote it "supporting federation." Is also has an open codebase, which is something.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

As an aside, I have read in some places that self-hosting is very straightforward, and in other places that it is prohibitively difficult. I have basically no idea about any of these things.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 14 hours ago

Federation with what?