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Unfortunately money makes the world go round. Part of the meaning of “no ethical consumption under capitalism” means that no matter who you are, no matter what kind of service you employ, no matter what you try and do for yourself, somewhere along the line capitalism comes in and causes someone to suffer. It’s pervasive and insidious.
If instances are completely supported by user donations, that’s great. But they will never match the billions of dollars that corps can toss around.
The only real way to prevent corporate influence on anything is to abolish corporations and/or capitalism. In the meantime, though, we as users can take steps to mitigate their influence: discuss proactively, agree to defederate at a moment’s notice, and server admins can refuse bribes/offers/etc.
Admins who do play ball with Facebook could get pressured by other admins out of doing so. Great, you've taken Facebook's money, but now half the fediverse just shuttered themselves off from you.
Couldn't agree more, well said. Moreover, I love the idea of defederation as a weapon against the fucking capitalists when they inevitably try to ruin the fediverse too.
Apes together strong, comrades!
There is no ethical consumption. State-run institutions are historically far worse for their users and good luck having any type of consistent strategic vision without some type of organizational structure. Non-profits like Wikimedia Foundation are by and large the way to go for future and sustained platform support. Yes, that is still capitalism. It is capitalism without the profit motive.
Can you actually have capitalism without the profit motive? I am skeptical.
Unless you believe that people are solely motivated by money, absolutely. I do believe that the entire basis behind most left-leaning ideologies supports the idea that they are not.
Just FYI, there's an issue at .world at the moment (probably from massive sudden population growth) where you can submit a comment and it looks like it didn't go (spins and spins, or an error, or it looks like you didn't even click the submit button), but it actually did.
I've been checking mine by opening a new tab on my profile to make sure the comments actually went (left click your user name upper right, right click Profile, open in new tab).
Just thought I'd mention it as you accidentally posted that comment a bunch of times. Server growing pains, lol
Good to know, thanks!