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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not assuming you're pro-dems, I'm pointing out that their loss is entirely attributable to their own political mis-calculation on top of their efforts to gaslight Americans about their roll and knowledge of the crimes being committed on their behalf.

Blaming voters for reacting to the Democrats' policy decisions - including the moderates they alienated - is simply yet another attempt to obscure the facts that lead us to this moment.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Probably more to do with the mass delusion and post truth world we live in.

And yes, enabling the greater evil is a failing of the people who voted against their interests because less evil wasn’t good enough.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social -3 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

enabling the greater evil is a failing of the people who voted against their interests

Democrats enabled the greater evil by ignoring the interests of the constituencies they needed to win. It doesn't matter if the lesser evil is objectively the right choice - they still need millions of people to go to the booth and make that choice, and nobody has more control over voter enthusiasm than the democrats themselves.

This is nobody's fault but the democrats.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

That is literally the fucking opposite of how voting works. You only got two choices for a winner here Biden or trump and not voting Biden = trump.

You guys seem to think there's a 3rd option here.

First past the post voting literally shows otherwise. You are a fool.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They did enable the greater evil, but it was voters who ultimately put them in office, not Democrats. The buck stops with the voters. Or it did - they made sure it won't any more.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

it was voters who ultimately put them in office

Guess I'll just repeat myself:

"they still need millions of people to go to the booth and make that choice, and nobody has more control over voter enthusiasm than the democrats themselves"

If you want to play games with abstracting agency away from the people who had control of the entire situation, go nuts. But not only did the democrats have every opportunity to make the case for themselves, but they also dug the grave they're now laying in by building their platform around AIPAC money (and large corporate donors) to begin with.

The democrats simply cannot win with the political machine they've constructed anymore.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Congratulations on helping trump win. You're partially responsible when Gaza goes bye bye. Not the Dems.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Surely you see the difference between Democratic leadership and the masses that believe in some semblance of humanity. I swear your short-sighted goal of overthrowing the system has resulted in millions of Americans marching goose step and lining trans children up for the slaughter.

Own your part now or history will not look kindly upon you and your ilk. You are right, but also very wrong.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 3 hours ago

I swear your short-sighted goal of overthrowing the system has resulted in millions of Americans marching goose step and lining trans children up for the slaughter.

Those kids had already been placed in that line by the system you're defending - half the states in the union had already been targeting them while democrats were at the helm, and now the democrats have the audacity to be blaming their loss on being too trans-friendly.