Tools do not have morality or ethics, only people do. Some people use tools in a morally and/or ethically questionable manner, either for profit or because it amuses them.

[–] inbeesee@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

True, we perpetuate the unjust systems around us. Systems can be constructed to unfairly benefit some over others as well, like how capitalism unfairly benefits the wealthy.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It's the age old argument of "It's not Communism that's bad, it's the human element."

Speaking as if any system created by humans will ever be free of the human element, which is of course faulty logic.

Edit:

The downvote button is not an 'I don't like this' button, trogs. Read the rules.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

, which is of course faulty logic

...which is why design systems so that when using them we can account for the human element, right? Come on! We have centuries-spanning systems even industries built on that! Engineering, avionics, Yelp reviews...

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago

I think you're forgetting the context of the discussion...

Not them but yes but it's not a feature of the system, it's a failure of the humans.

A system designed to be used by humans has an attribute bound to be exploited by humans and it's the failure of humans for exploiting it.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean, when the human element is literally not doing communism, yes, that would be a problem.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago

That's the problem: for communism to work, it requires perfect beings that act according to how the system is designed. Humans do not do that.