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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 319 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

Not to mention the "Governor Trudeau" extra-dumb.

God I hate politics-by-Twitter. I'm appalled that the US is turning into a fascist country, but I'm even more appalled by how pathetic, puerile and trashy the US' new fascist overlords are. At least Hitler dressed in Hugo Boss and made speeches that enthralled people: MAGA dresses like tramps, Steve Bannon-stylee and bullies other countries like kids on the playground.

[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Not to mention the β€œGovernor Trudeau” extra-dumb.

Trudeau is probably above that, but it would be mildly amusing if he started calling Trump "comrade Trump" or maybe "vice-president Trump"

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 1 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

We should all be calling him by his real name, "VP Krasnov".

ETA: and "Murca" is now glorious "KRASNOVIA"

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 4 points 5 hours ago

He called him "Donald" and republicans/maga are outraged!!! lol

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, I remember watching speeches by Hitler back when I was in school. I didn't understand German so I didn't know what he was saying, but I could at least appreciate that the Nazis knew how to project power and competence.

I always understood the fascist aesthetic to be something very macho, very serious-seeming, etc. I always thought the idea was that you had an incredibly charismatic strong-man leader who had all the answers. And, given that, I could understand how people could be taken in.

But, the MAGA aesthetic is so ugly. Their rhetoric is so unserious. Their leader is so old, fat and caked in orange makeup, and he sounds like an absolute moron. The people attending the rallies do comical things like wearing diapers. And yet, half the US looks at that and thinks: yeah, I'll vote for them.

And then there's Elon Musk. Every time he opens his mouth it's less and less believable that anything he ever did was the result of skill or competence. Any time he talks about programming or system administration it's clear he has no fucking clue what he's talking about. When he talks about gaming he claims he's one of the top players in the world, and yet it's obvious he's barely played the games involved. But, apparently Americans are so brainwashed that being rich means you're "a genius".

I hated George W. Bush, but at least I could understand how some people found his schtick endearing. I could understand how he harnessed people's fear and hate and turned it into support for his "war on terrah". But, with Trump my opinion of Americans has gone down to the lowest level ever. This is what works for you? Really??

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 76 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I think this is Truth Social with is worse than Twitter somehow.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 81 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Twitter and Truth Social are two subtly different flavors of fascist excrement.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 45 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Truth Social - all Nazi all the time Xitter - Nazi friendly and "centrist" (closet Nazis)

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 26 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No, Twitter is worse IMO. Truth social has always been a steaming pile of shit that non-fascists avoid. Twitter used to be viewed in a positive light and a lot of organizations and governments still use it as a communication medium - sometimes an exclusive communication medium.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Twitter used to be viewed in a positive light

It never was though. Studies always showed that it increase anxiety in the users. Hell, I'm trying to use Bsky to support artists trying to move away from twitter and the while it's not too bad, the character limit is forcing me to simplify my thoughts to the point that they're no longer specific enough not to create new conflict. Is this how twitter always was?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

I considered Twitter as one of the horsemen of the apocalypse, and that was years before musk bought it.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Twitter was awesome pre-2015 then something happened....can't quite figure out what brought a bunch of assholes to the platform....hmm...

And if you feel forced to simplify your thoughts to fit the character limit, you're simply using the wrong service

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago

Partially coincidental but

russiatweets.com

(Found this yesterday because the same organization mirrors the president’s β€œTruths”)

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 18 hours ago

Mastodon limits to 500 by default. Alternatives like misskey and pleroma are usually 5k or unlimited

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Well, the person I'm commenting under is using the wrong service. But it's easier to simply not comment or even "engage" in anyway then it is to get into arguments because of a miscommunication.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It depends on what you mean my positive light but generally I would say you're wrong. Twitter had a dedicated fan base well into this decade and was where every business and personality had an account for a reason. Yes people knew of negative social media effecta but Twitter definitely had a fairly wide spread cult following.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

where every business and personality had an account for a reason

to sell shit

Also, it seems weird to say a mainstream social media platform cult following.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

it seems weird to say a mainstream social media platform cult following.

I agree the word choice is a bit odd. I meant in the sense that Twitter had a dedicated userbase that used it a lot and sort of glorified it. You weren't talking with your friends or posting online, you were "Tweeting at your mutuals". The most succinct way I could put it was "cult", in the same sense that movies and TV have "cult" followings: a dedicated group that enjoys and bases some part of their personality around it.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

"Cult following" refer to fanbases for obscure media, like Wraith or Ice Pirates. Star Wars does not have a Cult following.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 48 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

That shows clearly that these tariffs are there to distract (yes it they hurt Americans, Canadians and Mexicans, but he doesn't care) to make media stop talking about Ukraine.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 46 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

And ukraine is there to distract from tax cuts, and tax cuts and there to distract from the lost of medicare and the lost of medicare is there to distract from them stealing everything, etc etc

maybe, just maybe, they are just dumb and evil

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

There's still a difference between the severity of some of these things.

With the right leadership America could undo tariffs or the anti-DEI stuff or even drastically redistribute that stolen wealth with the stroke of a pen. The damage to America's alliances could be repaired over time, especially if they show broad commitment to reforming. These things suck and will hurt but are fixable.

You can't sign a piece of paper to unfuck Ukraine, or restore gutted institutional knowledge or depose hereditary president-for-life Trump Jr.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

Sony forget that the tax cuts actually increase taxes for most working class Americans by $3k a year.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm betting on more evil than dumb but I can be incredibly wrong.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Trump is dumb. Thiel, Miller, and Yarvin are evil.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 5 points 12 hours ago

It is all to distract from the dismantling of any apparatus that could block his next attempt to stay in power forever.

This is all misdirection.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that they're not even good at being evil somehow pisses me off even more at the whole situation

To be fair, the nazis were pretty fucking stupid too. The evil-cool, machine-like, storm trooper aesthetic they're known for is cultivated, at least by a significant portion, by nazis overseas that wanted them to be likeable.

Some of it is cultural momentum, for sure. I also like Storm Troopers. But nazis really like Storm Troopers.