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Some democrats were willing to sing with Al Green during the censure hearing. But even so, other Democrats voted to censure Green.
When the ones backing Green sang a protest song after censure there was a counter chorus of republicans demanding Johnson have them dragged them out by security immediately. But they kept singing.
The fascists crumpled and went to recess without motion.
Imagine not just listening to the fascists for once, FFS.
Those 10 democrats absolutely should get a piece of our mind. Call them, email them, the works. But, also, 10 out of over 200 is inconsequential, we hold our politicians to a higher standard, Al got himself removed from congress on a day where Congress took no less than 80 actions on record, and it would have passed regardless.
As a consequentialist I don't blame Al Green but I also don't see his actions being effective or commendable.
Actions which inspire matter; even in a corrupt system like this. This was the first time I was inspired by a democrat in a while.
Sanders always inspires, so does not count; and if others are doing stuff it goes unnoticed in my feeds.
So Green did something important, noticed by people, breaking up the ebb and flow of hopelessness
If a lawmaker at a singular event gets into the feed twice it's because it mattered. If it gets into the feed 4 times per day for a week, it's because it's because somebody wants to push a narrative. In the case of Al Green, the narrative is that Dems aren't good enough unless they're getting dragged out of Congress.
You say that like it’s a bad thing. It’s not, because throughout history in the face of bad governance, when normal measures fail. People are expected to make a scene
We need every Democrat present in congress as much as humanly possibly. The margin for error on roll calls is 3 votes. If every Democrat is present and votes against, the Republicans can lose 2 votes and still pass the law.
Making a scene and being removed is not only ineffective, it is counterproductive to protecting American citizens.
When legislation passing the House hinges on strict party lines with only a couple votes margin of failure, ten members is massive. Al's actions are not consequential because he was left hanging by his party.
Every defecting Democrat empowers the Republicans tiny House majority. Those ten Democrats are effectively auditioning for arguments (bribes) to vote with the GOP. And the party appears perfectly fine with that: further undermining Al Green from behind.
When legislation passing the house is completely dependent on the majority party defecting, ten minority members can be inconsequential.