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I apologize if this is old news, but I just noticed it. It looks like Kagi has added Fediverse Forums as a default Web search option.

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[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm grateful someone mentioned it. Paying Yandex is a deal breaker for me. As much as Yandex may want to be independent, they cannot be because of the country they're based in. With the way things are going, the same may be true of Google and Kagi itself somewhere within the next four years.

Kagi defends itself by saying it's "only used 2% of the time" which would make a better argument that turning off the feature to distance themselves from Russia has little impact than a defence for working with them. There's also the "but we've always done it like this" defence and something about "providing the best results" but neither are great arguments.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But yandex is useful for those who search in Russian. The low utilization probably comes from a mostly US/EU customer base, but when it is used, it is useful. I would disagree with disabling it. The best would be letting people decide what back ends to use, but that requires a whole rewrite of the search logic on their side, so it's not happening any time soon...

BTW in EU we still use a lot of gas and oil from Russia, so it's quite difficult to avoid giving them money (especially because we don't know where energy came from for every product we buy).

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doing continuing business with Yandex at all is bad enough for me. I'm having enough trouble cutting off Russia-supporting products and services already, I'm not taking on new ones if I can avoid it.

Kagi is a great concept for a search engine, but looking at the forum posts by their CEO, their priorities clearly won't ever align with mine. I hope they get similar competition as Google crumbles further and further, because their business model is how search engines should be making money.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Fair enough, I am also not attached to kagi, mostly I want companies with good business models to succeed in tech. I want to see ad-revenue based companies (and all the connected industry) to crumble. A man can dream...