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    [–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 62 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    The main thing I'm learning from this thread is that a surprising number of people don't shut their machines down when they're done using them. Which is wild to me.

    [–] vodka@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    A lot of modern windows laptop don't let you shut them down.

    They use something called Windows Hybrid Sleep and it should be illegal. Selecting shut down in windows will keep the machine in a state where it will turn on at random times to check for updates. Especially fun whrn in your backpack creating a furnace.

    Thankfully it can be disabled via AD policy.

    [–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

    Ah yeah I forgot about hybrid sleep as I turned if off years ago and forgot it existed. Such a nonsense feature.

    [–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    I remember you have to press either Shift or Alt for the shutdown button to actually shut down the PC.

    [–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

    Shouldn't have to use fucking group policy just to stop your machine updating at inopportune times. Fucking Windows.

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

    is that not on by default for every windows installation?

    [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Why would you? Sleep uses so little power and the resume is instant.

    If it wasn’t for S0 standby being such a piece of shit I’d never shutdown my computer unless it was for an update or hardware maintenance.

    [–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I mean since the advent of SSDs I've not found the boot times of computers to be all that slow and I typically quite like coming back to a clean desktop on a new day rather than having junk from yesterday being thrown at me.

    [–] abfarid@startrek.website 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Even if the boot time is fast, you lose a lot of the program states. Not only it takes extra time to load those applications, it's also a fair amount of effort to put everything back where it should be.

    If it was necessary to shut computers down, no problem, it's not too much time and effort. But there's normally no need to shut computers down, it's just wasted time with no benefits (usually).

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

    yeah if ur working on something you should sleep the computer, but if you're working with, like, one app, or if youre not working on anything, i see no reason not to shutdown ur pc

    [–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    For me the only thing I needed to "put back where it should be" was my VPN. Bu I switched to wireguard from Eddie, so now I don't need to adjust anything on startup

    See I want all the junk from yesterday.

    [–] exu@feditown.com 4 points 1 day ago

    Just like the brain computers need off-time to calm their electrons and unflip their bits.

    /s but a lot of issues really are solved by a reboot

    [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    When I got my first (and only) PC, it was outright SUGGESTED to never power it down. By HP. So yeah I just sleep my computer, and yes I have to deal with the bullshit in the meme lol

    Always wondered why the fuck my PC is awake before I even touch it.

    [–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Back in the day we did that because it too long to boot so we never shut it down.

    20 years later we have servers at home that we never shut down.

    [–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

    The only reason why my uptime is only a month is because I took my PC with me on a work trip which involved packing it.

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    me too. i see no reason not to shut it down, unless boot time takes way too long (you dont have an ssd), you useΒ windows (always takes too long), or you have a bunch of apps open and don't want to lose the workflow.

    though i just have to shutdown anyway because my pc is right under a couple of roof leaks and it might rain while i'm sleeping or not at home

    [–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

    honest question, because i use windows and i shut down every day. is 20 seconds really "too long" for a full boot up?

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    To be fair I don't always use it like that but suspend is convenient if I have a continuous work that is scattered all around.

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

    what i'd day is "always turn off your computer when you're done using it", meaning you sleep it when you have work you don't want to lose.