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I mean:

English

Russian

French? (how did this happen? France --> French?!?)

Chinese

And someone from Afghanistan is an Afghan? How did the word get shorter not longer? 🤔

Also, why is a person from India called an Indian, but the language is called Hindi? This breaks my brain...

Philippines --> Filipino? They just saw the "Ph" and decided to use an "F"? 🤔

Okay idk how language even works anymore...

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We didn’t. 中國likely became the most common name with 中華民國(present day commonly known as Taiwan). What you now know as China is 中華人民共和國, so 中國 carries on. During dynasty periods that was not the common name.

China comes from sina/sino. I don’t remember where this comes from. Sanskrit?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

China comes from sina/sino. I don’t remember where this comes from. Sanskrit?

Odds are that both were independently borrowed from Sanskrit चीन / Cīna:

  • China: Sanskrit, then Persian, Portuguese, English. By then Portuguese likely still had the [tʃ] "tch" sound.
  • Sina: Sanskrit, then Persian, Arabic, Greek, Latin, English. Arabic converted Sanskrit [tɕ] into [sˤ], then Greek into [s].

Note: dunno in English but at least in Latin "Sina" (often Sinae, the plural) refers specifically to southern China. The north is typically called Serica (roughly "of the silk").

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In Arabic it's "Seen" (صين) with a Saad (ص) ‎[sˤ]. It came from Persian "چین" (Cheen). Which came from Sanskrit.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

My bad, and thanks for the info! I'll correct my comment, I kind of rushed checking the etymologies.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Uh... 中国(Zhongguo) was first used in the Western Zhou period, over 3000 years ago. Other words like 诸夏(Zhuxia), 诸华 (Zhuhua), 天下 (Tianxia), 华夏 (Huaxia), 神州 (Shenzhou), 九州 (Jiuzhou), and assorted combinations or variations of these were used off and on over the time as well. (None of which sound like "China" naturally.) 大清国 (Daqing Guo) was used the Qing before they were overthrown and the Republic, and later the People's Republic, took the country over again.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It wasn’t common though. Like everyone calls it 中國 now. Not so back then. China has fragmented and reunited many times

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was pretty common in the Zhou Dynastic period, being the official name and all that. That's 789 years. I think we can consider it firmly established usage from that, no?

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

I can concede that