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The Palestinian genocide takes place in Palestine, not in China. You are mistaken regarding that.
Who the hell is Zenz? First time I hear the name, and does not seem like a person I should bother to learn something from.
I never said the genocide of Palestinians was in China, I said the Palestinian genocide has mountains of evidence while what you describe comes from Zenz.
Zenz is the sole source of claims of mass killings and torture of Uyghurs, along with claims of forced sterilization. If you aren't even aware of your own sources, why are you arguing against someone who has done some degree of research into the subject?
I recommend reading the UN report, found here. It's a good place to start, I also recommend reading China's response. There's a lot that can be discussed, but it's clear that you care more about taking advantage of the subject to push a political agenda, like the Israelis who claimed Hamas beheaded babies, or the Kuwaiti claims of Iraqi soldiers taking babies from their incubators and leaving them on the floor. Read The Xinjiang Atrocity Propaganda Blitz.
No investigation, no right to speak.
My sources are newspaper articles whose sources are not the guy you're talking about.
Because the Palestinian and Bosnian genocides are not in China, they don't prove anything about China. At best they are whataboutism.
Check the newspapers, Zenz will be listed. Find some sources, they all point to Zenz for claims of genocide.
As for Palestine, it isn't a whataboutism. There's overwhelming evidence of Palestinian genocide, and there just isn't for the Uyghur people.
Start with the UN report, read China's response.
The reports were made by reporters that were named and whose names weren't what you refer to.
Unless Palestine is in China, what happens or does not happen gives no privileges for China. What you're doing is indeed whataboutism.
Show your sources. Claims of genocidal nature all route back to Zenz, claims of reeducation programs are abundant and have many sources.
And no, whataboutism would be saying that "China may be doing genocide, but the US and Israel are doing worse genocide in Palestine." That's not my point, my point is that the Palestinian genocide has mountains of evidence, yet the Uyghur reeducation program's "genocidal nature" only has Zenz, paid for by the BBC specifically to manufacture evidence to be used against China for geopolitical gain.