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The secular, explicitly Jewish state.
With a system of apartheid and that's committing genocide on another culture. I mean, I guess apartheid South Africa could also be described as "multicultural," in the sense that multiple cultures existed, with one oppressing the other. Nazi concentration camps? Very multicultural.
That doesn't recognize same-sex marriage and indiscriminately murders queer Palestinians alongside cishet ones.
Everything you said here is factually correct, in case anyone comes here to argue what you said.
So when you described them as a "secular, multicultural society inclusive of LGBTQ people," you were lying, then.
If you had any actual reading comprehension and some level of functional reasoning you would see that i wasn't describing the country of Isreal but rather who is supporting them.
Oh, I see, so it's the US that's rapidly descending into christofascism and conducting mass deportations and sending trans women to men's prisons which is the "secular, multicultural society that's inclusive of LGBTQ people," and you're just regurgitating shitty arguments used to justify the Iraq war because "inequality's already been solved here, now we just need to take over other countries to force them to adopt our peaceful ways" except somehow even less coherent because the country that's actually involved is completely indefensible and the people being targeted are being slaughtered even more indiscriminately.
I did read your "funded by" earlier, I just processed it as talking about like, the IDF being funded by Israel or something, because that's the only thing that would be anywhere close to being relevant or resembling a point. If I donate $5 to one side in a conflict and then shoot up a playground, does that make the other side automatically justified? If I give one side a gun and then save a baby from a burning building, does that make that side automatically justified? How does this work in your mind, exactly?
Hey just so you know, US is not the only Western country that supports Israel and I was not referring to them and actually Europe (Germany & UK), but you go ahead and continue to dig yourself deeper into that hole that helps you cope with this fact.
If the parents are bullying peoples children and then hide behind their own kids afterwards on the playground itself, it gets kinda tough to justify defending bad parents and someone needs to intervene on them in the playground. This doesn't mean, however, to wipe the playground off the map, that's insane.
Then maybe you should speak more clearly instead of hiding behind ambiguities as a defense.
What TF are you talking about? This isn't "parents bullying people's children," this is genocide. Nazi Germany committed genocide, was it "insane" that it was wiped off the map? Imperial Japan committed genocide, was it "insane" to wipe that country off the map?
Israel's fate should follow the example of South Africa, since it has a similar system of apartheid. Everyone in the region should be given full and equal rights, including voting rights, and since Palestinians are the majority, it will likely lose it's identity as an ethnostate. People can choose whether they want to stay or leave in the resulting country.
I could not bother to read anything but the last paragraph you wrote and agree with you on that so far