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I wish you Americans would deal with this crap before I end up getting drafted to defend my country from the orange porcine dementia patient.
Seriously. One of the most conservative old guys at my running club yesterday said, and I quote, “someone needs to kill Donald Trump and Elon Musk.” And I live in Alberta.
We are absolutely done with the US’s bullshit up here guys. Fucking do something. If one more of you cowards tries to tell me you’re going to vote harder in the primaries or some other stupid limp dick excuse, I swear to god man. Our lives and sovereignty are being threatened here. For the love of god do something actually useful for once in your lives.
Honestly, fuck off. Most of us didn't want this shit. Stop victim blaming.
Then “most of you” should have done something about it.
Fucking exactly.
Honestly, fuck you. You don’t understand what it is to be threatened with invasion from the greatest military power of all time.
Lol you aren't getting invaded. Relax.
How’s that “Trump is just saying stuff, he wouldn’t actually do that” attitude working out for you so far?
Except our country did. He won the popular vote and those who stayed home meant they were fine with him winning.
Just don't comfort these assholes when they finally regret their decision.
Americans hoard guns like crazy and then act like elections are the be all end all of political reform. It’s idiotic and disgusting.
Right wingers hoard guns. I have been saying for a solid fucking decade that if the left isn't armed we're helpless. There's the SRA and JBGC, but a major part of the democratic platform has been "we're gonna take your guns" since before I was born. I might go out in a blaze of glory if the brownshirts bring war to my doorstep, but I'm not picking a suicidal fight on my own.
ETA: and yes, the Democrats aren't left wing. But they are the leftmost viable party we have. And they have been anti-gun for decades. Which means they tend to not own guns and they tend to not organize militias.
You never see right wingers saying shit like this. They are willing to do shit to further their political leaning without any plan for self preservation, and that’s why they are winning with this weird opinion that most people don’t share.
But here you are telling me to go attack the US government. They won because they have billions of dollars backing them and their rivals are ineffectual, not because they are crazy.
Excuses to continue to do nothing.
Do you work for the FBI? I never said nothing should be done, I'm just trying to explain why nobody has started an armed insurrection. The people you have heard about who are stockpiling guns are conservatives. There you go. There is your answer.
buddy if its such an issue for you no ones stopping you from driving down and doing whatever it is you expect others to do for you yourself
I am preparing, in my country. Fix your own damn bullshit because it is bleeding into me and my loved ones and countrymen’s lives and livelihoods.
easy cop out good job
lol fucking coward.
hi im dilroop gill btw crucifix bit less of a coward than you are
making edge art and complaining on lemmy doesnt make you brave, you do that because you're scared
You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after every other option has been exhausted first.
Churchill, wasn't it?
I hear you, brother. I'm in Alberta too, but never been interested in guns; I'm waiting for my PAL to be approved as we speak. My parents and in-laws are terrified and upset about their grandkids potential futures. I'm talking to them daily to try to calm them down. We're angry all the time, and now filling with anxiety about the upcoming election, because we all see the lies and bullshit tied to money, power, and ignorance starting...
What do you suggest Americans do? Say someone is a working class American who didn’t vote for Trump. They can barely make ends meet and have no power or political sway. What does that person do? I’m not trying to be funny, I’m simply interested in your take and perspective as a non-American.
You'd know more than someone outside of the US.
I never said I was American. I asked a hypothetical question. I was interested in a non-American’s thoughts.
we are less free to say it than someone outside of the US
I saw something recently that was talking about how individualism has led us to this situation. Everyone is thinking what they can do. We lost our collectivist spirit. We don't think about what we can do.
An individual has essentially no power. A group does. We need to get better at organizing. This is made hard because we are so separated from each other, driving individually to work, then back home, largely to houses where you don't interact with anyone else. We have basically no third places anymore where you'd typically organize. This situation was designed, and it's going to be hard to get out of, but we need to get better at forming groups and organizing.
Great point. I’d argue that an extension of individualism is consumption.
What was the majority positive response to Luigi? Consumption.
People asked where to buy stickers and T-shirts. T-shirts.
Nothing can be fixed until it's understood to be a problem, and AOC from her stump speeches and emails seems to at least recognize the problem you're pointing that American systems are essentially "massively scaled up isolation from others".
Rugged individualism has failed us. It's going to take a reclamation of collectivism to fix our problems.
They are powerless if everyone stops giving them power
The country is nothing without its workers
Of 10-20% of the population actively protested and actively tried to halt any functioning of society, you'd be surprised at how much you could get done. A that large mass of people is absolutely hell to control and subdue, and they certainly cannot arrest even a significant fraction of them. If the threat of protests of that scale were real every time they tried some fuckery, they would give in very quickly
The problem is that almost everyone thinks like you say, "what am I to do? I'm powerless", and give up before even trying
And while we’re at it, why don’t people in China have the freedom to speak out against their government and not have censorship? Maybe if they all just got together in a big public square and really protested, I bet that would end really well.
China never really had functioning democracy to begin with, so this comparison doesn't really apply. The point is to rise up before it gets as bad as in China.
Also thought of mentioning Hong Kong. Might be an even better example actually.
I mean, if they all did it, it absolutely would make shit happen
The whole issue stems from most people wanting to just keep their heads down
People in numbers have ALL the power. I know Americans have been trained for defeatism, but look at what protest, resistance, and strikes can do overseas.