It seems like the american actions to come are getting more and more unpredictable or just more assaultive. Especialy the tech scene seems willing to ignore inconvenient laws of foreign countries they operate in. While I can adapt to that by simply use other services, there are a few fields no real option is available.

While having Android as an unavoidable OS for mobile devices (at least when one still wants to use payment services like paypal and google pay) my main concern is about Open Source or better saying the place where most projects are stored: Github.

Did MS said something regarding their intentions for github and europe? While Meta, Google, Ebay etc. for example published updated general terms and conditions and clearly communicated they are unhappy with a bunch of things, MS was not that open and did not take postion as far as I know.

How likely it is to become a problem for europe to access github/gitlab/bitbucket you name it and the hosted FOSS and open dource projects lying there?

I am not that deep into the rules of FOSS and open source, so please lighten my up If I missed something essentialy or provide information about initiatives.

Maybe out there poeple are already creating a clone from github to another archive like it is done with other american public domain data stated here? (Sorry in advance, its a german article. TLDR: its about saving the public domain data of america as it is done for ukrainian data too)

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[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, but actually, no. For a ton of projects, Github is an important resource. It is the main collaboration tool through the issue trackers, offers hosting and continuous integration. If it fell of the earth today, a lot of projects would scramble and have a lot of lost (meta)data.

If they were to announce that they would shut down in three months time, those same projects would scramble as well to migrate - which is also a bit chaotic, but less so.

And: many projects are switching away right now. I moved mapcomplete to a selfhosted forgejo instance since a few months ('cause I don't trust github no more), Organic Maps moved just now cause they got a (temporary) ban. One of their contributors was apperantly from a US-sanctioned country (more info about them here: https://en.osm.town/@organicmaps@fosstodon.org).

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How do I discover your code if it is on a selfhosted repo? On GitHub I can just search for keywords and find interesting projects.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

The same way you do any other project. If you're interested, you go looking. You find my project which has a link to the repo. A link is a link. You're simply fighting over where the link goes to, and I'm pointing out that it's a stupid argument to be had.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Github is an important resource.

And there's dozens and dozens of replacements available. The issue you're speaking of isn't an issue with Github at all. It's an issue with developers.

If Github going off the map borks your development because PROGRAMMERS can't use anything but Github, you have much bigger problems than you think.