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[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Biden deported more people, while giving them due process. There are reasons for this, but fuck right off that Biden did not do anything about illegal immigration propaganda.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You seem to be saying that like it's a good thing to be 'deporting more people'.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Not what I mean. It is a better thing that when it was done, it was done with due process. My point is it's right wing propaganda that he did nothing. Biden executed the law for better or worse.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Biden deported more people

Technically true, according to Reuters:

U.S. President Donald Trump deported 37,660 people during his first month in office, previously unpublished U.S. Department of Homeland Security data show, far less than the monthly average of 57,000 removals and returns in the last full year of Joe Biden's administration.

However, this appears to be the case simply because fewer people are currently attempting to enter the USA illegally.

Biden did not do anything about illegal immigration propaganda

Biden's policy was to let record numbers of people into the country and then do almost nothing for them afterwards. Apparently he was fine with, for example, relying on the City of New York to provide food and shelter to several hundred thousand completely destitute immigrants out of its own local tax budget. I would have respected a major federal-level initiative to help these immigrants. I would have understood turning them away. The federal government did neither - a total failure of leadership.

[–] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

However, this appears to be the case simply because fewer people are currently attempting to enter the USA illegally.

Any source on that? Because I would have thought by definition there's no easy way to track people illegally crossing the border (assuming that's the method of illegal immigration we're talking about). But the fact that Biden was deporting more (based on one month, granted) suggests he was at least more effective at addressing those that were found to have done so.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's what the linked article presents as the likely explanation.

I mean, it's what a spokesperson suggested. I think we maybe take that with a pinch of salt.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

First sentence "yeah I'm a liar". Second one. I know, that's what meant when I said there were reasons, but I don't need to explain to a liar. Third one, your already a liar it was not his policy to "let record numbers of people into the country" how could it be when he caught records at the border? Your logic is broken. If he was trying to let records in why was he catching them? TDS is when you believe every single thing that makes trump look good. That was your propaganda that it was his policy.