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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They could even be US citizens. It's happened before.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

At least one deportee on the planes was really Nicaraguan, and not Venezuelan at all. El Salvador refused to accept him into their torture prison, because they don't want to piss off their neighbor Nicaragua.

Edit: Also, Judge Millet on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals asked this exact question: "It could have been me. You could throw me on a plane?". The government's response to this was, "Your honor, nothing of the sort is in the record!". Aka, we're not throwing you on a plane, yet.. Truly, one of the great ways to persuade a jurist to your cause.

Another choice Millet quote: "Nazis got better treatment than this!". (Referring to Germans deported under the same law during WWII, where they generally had notice, hearings, and the chance to depart voluntarily).

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, there is absolutely a record. During the great depression, 1.8 million brown people were deported from the USA to Mexico. It's estimated that up to 60% of them were American citizens. We had Japanese Americans put into prison camps without a lawful reason or due process. Do you think American citizens with brown skin aren't being arrested and deported by this MAGA cult?

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Oh, there is absolutely a record.

The "record" that the government lawyer was talking about is just the set of papers filed in this one case. Judges are nominally supposed to make decisions based only on the information that people bring in front of them.

Japanese Americans put into prison camps without a lawful reason or due process.

Ex parte Endo is actually relevant case law in the arguments for this Venezuelan case, since the justification for the Japanese American internment was the same 1798 alien enemies act. The current law of the land from Endo is that the internment of first generation Japanese immigrants, who were not citizens, was legal during the declared war. The internment of second and third generation citizens of Japanese descent was not legal.

Do you think American citizens with brown skin aren't being arrested and deported by this MAGA cult?

This certainly seems plausible to me, but this scenario is not (yet) alleged in this specific Venezuelan case.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Everyone deserves due process, that's why it's called due process.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe, with an exception for the people who want to put people in concentration camps without due process.

[–] AlbertSpangler@lemmings.world 38 points 2 days ago
[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 days ago

hey if those free-thinkers could read they'd be very upset

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wait, the hats say 45-47? That would mean 45 through 47, inclusive of 46. Did they think an ampersand looked too feminine or something?

[–] speederpotpie@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Honestly I think they did 45-47 to imply that he also won 46 but it was "rigged".

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

And I don't think they're actually putting that much thought into it

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

They forgot about that. "buyers remorse" is the term they are being told to repeat.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Sadly plausible, as I assume anyone wearing those hats celebrates unconstitutional acts in general.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is America.

School math is so tricky now (ah!)

You won't make me read it now (ah!)

You aren't my teacher now (ah!)

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

some people are discovering they are not as white as they thought they were

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

"because we are racists and fascists and hate people of colour."

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Because they didn't come here with the Mayflower, duh!

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You know it's true because it's just obvious... same logic as memes.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

they're all sheep, idk why it took so long for everybody to realize, but maybe i'm special since i am one of those so called "free thinkers"

it's not something you should aspire to be, that's for sure. It's almost always a neurotic function of your brain. I mean seriously, it sounds cute when you larp as a free thinker, but please, dont shower for a week and see how much you care.