Edit: The admins have told me if I don't say this was an accident then they will remove the post.
It's is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.
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97% of seizures spontaneously stop in less than 5minutes. People on medication ( that they actually take), seizures tend to be shorter and in the setting of partial onset epilepsy (which is usually the case in adults) they are also more focal or shorter at breakthrough. So yeah, technically any seizure can kill you, but in reality they very rarely do. Also, the family of this person was comfortable having her alone in her home suggesting this hasn’t been a regular occurrence etc.
Of course, this doesn’t mean anything but again, it is unusual.
The experience shouldn't offend the data. The data comes from the experience. If you keep discounting occurances it will seem rare and unusual. that's perpetuating a fallacy.
A close friend of mine has a son who hadn't had seizures in a few years and they thought his seizures were being managed and that they found the right medication and treatment. Then suddenly he had a grand mal but luckily while they were out someone else was around. Took them all by surprise. he had a cardiac arrest and everything.
This does count.
It becomes less rare when you stop belittling experiences about it. It should absolutely be taken more seriously.
It means maybe take off the tinfoil hat for a bit.
Yeah, just because something is unusual, it doesn’t mean that another unusual explanation is automatically true.
Does that mean that 3% of seizures require intervention?
I would imagine the probabilities aren't independent, but if they were, the probability of someone staying in the 97% for 10 seizures in a row is 73.7%. 20 seizures in a row drops the probability to 54%. Under that math, even if the probability of something going wrong is low in any given seizure, someone who has many seizures in a lifetime will likely experience something serious at some point.
I should have put over 97%. But yeah for a generalized tonic-clonic seizure lasting longer than 5 minutes is called "status epilepticus" and that is a risk of lasting injury and thus warrant intervention. Just not the kind that bystanders are able to provide.
Yup, probabilities are not independent and if those clusters of seizures happen minutes to hours from each other, the risk of injury increases further. Also, with more and longer seizures the epilepsy tends to become increasingly harder to manage. But epilepsy comes in many shapes and forms so it depends on the specific kind. The adults who die of epilepsy usually don't die "unexpectedly" meaning they have certain comorbidities that increase the risk of dying (e.g. heart disease), etc.